Obstetrics

No maternal viremia, placental infection, or vertical transmission of SARS-CoV-2 occurred during a biorepository study that included 64 women with SARS-CoV-2 infection, researchers reported in JAMA Network Open.

But SARS-CoV-2 antibodies transferred relatively inefficiently across the placenta in the third trimester, which suggests that neonates whose mothers had COVID-19 during pregnancy still may be vulnerable to the virus, the investigators said. Antibodies may transfer more efficiently with second-trimester infections, data from another study indicate.

“These findings suggest that, although low rates of maternal viremia and patterns of placental SARS-CoV-2 receptor distribution may underlie the rarity of vertical transmission, reduced transplacental transfer of anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies may leave neonates at risk for infection,” wrote study author Andrea G. Edlow, MD, MSc, and colleagues. Dr. Edlow is an assistant professor of obstetrics, gynecology, and reproductive biology at Harvard Medical School and a maternal-fetal medicine specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital, both in Boston.

In another study published in Cell, the research team found that, unlike with third trimester infections, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies transferred efficiently after infection in the second trimester. “Understanding how de novo antibody transfer varies by trimester may point to critical windows in pregnancy that may be most desirable for induction of antibodies through vaccination to optimize protection for both the mother and her infant,” they wrote.

It is unclear whether antibodies that are elicited by recently authorized vaccines will transfer differently than those elicited by natural infection.
 

Reassurance, questions, and concerns

“Although it is not known whether the inefficient transplacental transfer of antibodies ... will also extend to antibodies elicited by future SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, it underscores the susceptibility of infants,” said Denise J. Jamieson, MD, MPH, of Emory University, Atlanta, and Sonja A. Rasmussen, MD, MS, of the University of Florida, Gainesville, in an editorial accompanying the JAMA Network Open study.

And while the lack of vertical disease transmission in this study is reassuring, more research is needed, according to the director of a federal institute that helped fund the research.

“This study provides some reassurance that SARS-CoV-2 infections during the third trimester are unlikely to pass through the placenta to the fetus, but more research needs to be done to confirm this finding,” said Diana W. Bianchi, MD, director of the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, in a news release.

The study authors theorize that the low incidence of maternal viremia and nonoverlapping expression of SARS-CoV-2 receptors ACE2 and TMPRSS2 in the placenta may protect against placental infection and vertical transmission.
 

Testing at 3 centers

To quantify SARS-CoV-2 viral load in maternal and neonatal biofluids and the transplacental passage of anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, Dr. Edlow and collaborators enrolled 127 pregnant women at three tertiary care centers in Boston between April 2 and June 13, 2020. Follow-up occurred through July 10. Researchers tested neonates born to women with SARS-CoV-2 infection by nasopharyngeal swab at age 24 hours.

Of 64 women with SARS-CoV-2 infection, 36% were asymptomatic, 34% had mild disease, 11% had moderate disease, 16% had severe disease, and 3% had critical disease. Viral load analyses did not detect viremia in maternal or cord blood, and there was no evidence of vertical transmission.

Transfer of anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies was significantly lower than transfer of anti-influenza antibodies The average cord-to-maternal antibody ratio was 0.72 for anti–receptor binding domain IgG and 0.74 for antinucleocapsid, whereas the ratio for anti-influenza antibodies was 1.44. The expected cord-to-maternal antibody ratio is approximately 1.5 for pathogens such as pertussis, influenza, and measles, the authors noted.

Among participants who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, 35-week intrauterine fetal demise occurred in an asymptomatic woman, and 22-week neonatal demise secondary to extreme prematurity in the setting of abruption and preterm labor occurred in a symptomatic patient.

Maternal disease severity was significantly associated with detectable respiratory viral load. In addition, disease severity was positively correlated with serum concentration of C-reactive protein and ALT, and negatively correlated with white blood cell count.

In the Cell study that further examined antibody transfer, the investigators focused on maternal and cord blood plasma samples from 22 mother-cord dyads with SARS-CoV-2 infection during pregnancy and 34 uninfected mother-neonate dyads, as well as a second trimester cohort of 29 mother-neonate dyads and a third trimester validation cohort of 28 mother-neonate dyads.
 

Protecting infants

The results support “previous studies that have found that, while intrauterine transmission is possible, it is not common,” Dr. Jamieson and Dr. Rasmussen noted. “Most viral infections can be transmitted transplacentally; however, why some viruses are transmitted relatively easily across the placenta (e.g., HIV, Zika, herpes simplex virus), while others, such as influenza, are transmitted rarely is not well understood.”

Data indicate that infants are at higher risk of severe COVID-19, compared with older children. Nonetheless, research suggests that strict hygiene measures can protect infants born to mothers with SARS-CoV-2 infection, they added.

The research was supported by the National Institutes of Health; the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation; a gift from Mark, Lisa, and Enid Schwartz; and by the Massachusetts General Hospital department of pathology Vickery-Colvin Award and other nonprofit groups. Dr. Edlow, Dr. Jamieson, and Dr. Rasmussen had no conflict of interest disclosures.

The coauthors of both studies disclosed ties to pharmaceutical companies, grants from foundations and government agencies, a patent for a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, and author royalties from publishers.

[email protected]

No maternal viremia, placental infection, or vertical transmission of SARS-CoV-2 occurred during a biorepository study that included 64 women with SARS-CoV-2 infection, researchers reported in JAMA Network Open.

But SARS-CoV-2 antibodies transferred relatively inefficiently across the placenta in the third trimester, which suggests that neonates whose mothers had COVID-19 during pregnancy still may be vulnerable to the virus, the investigators said. Antibodies may transfer more efficiently with second-trimester infections, data from another study indicate.

“These findings suggest that, although low rates of maternal viremia and patterns of placental SARS-CoV-2 receptor distribution may underlie the rarity of vertical transmission, reduced transplacental transfer of anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies may leave neonates at risk for infection,” wrote study author Andrea G. Edlow, MD, MSc, and colleagues. Dr. Edlow is an assistant professor of obstetrics, gynecology, and reproductive biology at Harvard Medical School and a maternal-fetal medicine specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital, both in Boston.

In another study published in Cell, the research team found that, unlike with third trimester infections, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies transferred efficiently after infection in the second trimester. “Understanding how de novo antibody transfer varies by trimester may point to critical windows in pregnancy that may be most desirable for induction of antibodies through vaccination to optimize protection for both the mother and her infant,” they wrote.

It is unclear whether antibodies that are elicited by recently authorized vaccines will transfer differently than those elicited by natural infection.
 

Reassurance, questions, and concerns

“Although it is not known whether the inefficient transplacental transfer of antibodies ... will also extend to antibodies elicited by future SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, it underscores the susceptibility of infants,” said Denise J. Jamieson, MD, MPH, of Emory University, Atlanta, and Sonja A. Rasmussen, MD, MS, of the University of Florida, Gainesville, in an editorial accompanying the JAMA Network Open study.

And while the lack of vertical disease transmission in this study is reassuring, more research is needed, according to the director of a federal institute that helped fund the research.

“This study provides some reassurance that SARS-CoV-2 infections during the third trimester are unlikely to pass through the placenta to the fetus, but more research needs to be done to confirm this finding,” said Diana W. Bianchi, MD, director of the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, in a news release.

The study authors theorize that the low incidence of maternal viremia and nonoverlapping expression of SARS-CoV-2 receptors ACE2 and TMPRSS2 in the placenta may protect against placental infection and vertical transmission.
 

Testing at 3 centers

To quantify SARS-CoV-2 viral load in maternal and neonatal biofluids and the transplacental passage of anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, Dr. Edlow and collaborators enrolled 127 pregnant women at three tertiary care centers in Boston between April 2 and June 13, 2020. Follow-up occurred through July 10. Researchers tested neonates born to women with SARS-CoV-2 infection by nasopharyngeal swab at age 24 hours.

Of 64 women with SARS-CoV-2 infection, 36% were asymptomatic, 34% had mild disease, 11% had moderate disease, 16% had severe disease, and 3% had critical disease. Viral load analyses did not detect viremia in maternal or cord blood, and there was no evidence of vertical transmission.

Transfer of anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies was significantly lower than transfer of anti-influenza antibodies The average cord-to-maternal antibody ratio was 0.72 for anti–receptor binding domain IgG and 0.74 for antinucleocapsid, whereas the ratio for anti-influenza antibodies was 1.44. The expected cord-to-maternal antibody ratio is approximately 1.5 for pathogens such as pertussis, influenza, and measles, the authors noted.

Among participants who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, 35-week intrauterine fetal demise occurred in an asymptomatic woman, and 22-week neonatal demise secondary to extreme prematurity in the setting of abruption and preterm labor occurred in a symptomatic patient.

Maternal disease severity was significantly associated with detectable respiratory viral load. In addition, disease severity was positively correlated with serum concentration of C-reactive protein and ALT, and negatively correlated with white blood cell count.

In the Cell study that further examined antibody transfer, the investigators focused on maternal and cord blood plasma samples from 22 mother-cord dyads with SARS-CoV-2 infection during pregnancy and 34 uninfected mother-neonate dyads, as well as a second trimester cohort of 29 mother-neonate dyads and a third trimester validation cohort of 28 mother-neonate dyads.
 

Protecting infants

The results support “previous studies that have found that, while intrauterine transmission is possible, it is not common,” Dr. Jamieson and Dr. Rasmussen noted. “Most viral infections can be transmitted transplacentally; however, why some viruses are transmitted relatively easily across the placenta (e.g., HIV, Zika, herpes simplex virus), while others, such as influenza, are transmitted rarely is not well understood.”

Data indicate that infants are at higher risk of severe COVID-19, compared with older children. Nonetheless, research suggests that strict hygiene measures can protect infants born to mothers with SARS-CoV-2 infection, they added.

The research was supported by the National Institutes of Health; the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation; a gift from Mark, Lisa, and Enid Schwartz; and by the Massachusetts General Hospital department of pathology Vickery-Colvin Award and other nonprofit groups. Dr. Edlow, Dr. Jamieson, and Dr. Rasmussen had no conflict of interest disclosures.

The coauthors of both studies disclosed ties to pharmaceutical companies, grants from foundations and government agencies, a patent for a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, and author royalties from publishers.

[email protected]

No maternal viremia, placental infection, or vertical transmission of SARS-CoV-2 occurred during a biorepository study that included 64 women with SARS-CoV-2 infection, researchers reported in JAMA Network Open.

But SARS-CoV-2 antibodies transferred relatively inefficiently across the placenta in the third trimester, which suggests that neonates whose mothers had COVID-19 during pregnancy still may be vulnerable to the virus, the investigators said. Antibodies may transfer more efficiently with second-trimester infections, data from another study indicate.

“These findings suggest that, although low rates of maternal viremia and patterns of placental SARS-CoV-2 receptor distribution may underlie the rarity of vertical transmission, reduced transplacental transfer of anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies may leave neonates at risk for infection,” wrote study author Andrea G. Edlow, MD, MSc, and colleagues. Dr. Edlow is an assistant professor of obstetrics, gynecology, and reproductive biology at Harvard Medical School and a maternal-fetal medicine specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital, both in Boston.

In another study published in Cell, the research team found that, unlike with third trimester infections, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies transferred efficiently after infection in the second trimester. “Understanding how de novo antibody transfer varies by trimester may point to critical windows in pregnancy that may be most desirable for induction of antibodies through vaccination to optimize protection for both the mother and her infant,” they wrote.

It is unclear whether antibodies that are elicited by recently authorized vaccines will transfer differently than those elicited by natural infection.
 

Reassurance, questions, and concerns

“Although it is not known whether the inefficient transplacental transfer of antibodies ... will also extend to antibodies elicited by future SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, it underscores the susceptibility of infants,” said Denise J. Jamieson, MD, MPH, of Emory University, Atlanta, and Sonja A. Rasmussen, MD, MS, of the University of Florida, Gainesville, in an editorial accompanying the JAMA Network Open study.

And while the lack of vertical disease transmission in this study is reassuring, more research is needed, according to the director of a federal institute that helped fund the research.

“This study provides some reassurance that SARS-CoV-2 infections during the third trimester are unlikely to pass through the placenta to the fetus, but more research needs to be done to confirm this finding,” said Diana W. Bianchi, MD, director of the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, in a news release.

The study authors theorize that the low incidence of maternal viremia and nonoverlapping expression of SARS-CoV-2 receptors ACE2 and TMPRSS2 in the placenta may protect against placental infection and vertical transmission.
 

Testing at 3 centers

To quantify SARS-CoV-2 viral load in maternal and neonatal biofluids and the transplacental passage of anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, Dr. Edlow and collaborators enrolled 127 pregnant women at three tertiary care centers in Boston between April 2 and June 13, 2020. Follow-up occurred through July 10. Researchers tested neonates born to women with SARS-CoV-2 infection by nasopharyngeal swab at age 24 hours.

Of 64 women with SARS-CoV-2 infection, 36% were asymptomatic, 34% had mild disease, 11% had moderate disease, 16% had severe disease, and 3% had critical disease. Viral load analyses did not detect viremia in maternal or cord blood, and there was no evidence of vertical transmission.

Transfer of anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies was significantly lower than transfer of anti-influenza antibodies The average cord-to-maternal antibody ratio was 0.72 for anti–receptor binding domain IgG and 0.74 for antinucleocapsid, whereas the ratio for anti-influenza antibodies was 1.44. The expected cord-to-maternal antibody ratio is approximately 1.5 for pathogens such as pertussis, influenza, and measles, the authors noted.

Among participants who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, 35-week intrauterine fetal demise occurred in an asymptomatic woman, and 22-week neonatal demise secondary to extreme prematurity in the setting of abruption and preterm labor occurred in a symptomatic patient.

Maternal disease severity was significantly associated with detectable respiratory viral load. In addition, disease severity was positively correlated with serum concentration of C-reactive protein and ALT, and negatively correlated with white blood cell count.

In the Cell study that further examined antibody transfer, the investigators focused on maternal and cord blood plasma samples from 22 mother-cord dyads with SARS-CoV-2 infection during pregnancy and 34 uninfected mother-neonate dyads, as well as a second trimester cohort of 29 mother-neonate dyads and a third trimester validation cohort of 28 mother-neonate dyads.
 

Protecting infants

The results support “previous studies that have found that, while intrauterine transmission is possible, it is not common,” Dr. Jamieson and Dr. Rasmussen noted. “Most viral infections can be transmitted transplacentally; however, why some viruses are transmitted relatively easily across the placenta (e.g., HIV, Zika, herpes simplex virus), while others, such as influenza, are transmitted rarely is not well understood.”

Data indicate that infants are at higher risk of severe COVID-19, compared with older children. Nonetheless, research suggests that strict hygiene measures can protect infants born to mothers with SARS-CoV-2 infection, they added.

The research was supported by the National Institutes of Health; the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation; a gift from Mark, Lisa, and Enid Schwartz; and by the Massachusetts General Hospital department of pathology Vickery-Colvin Award and other nonprofit groups. Dr. Edlow, Dr. Jamieson, and Dr. Rasmussen had no conflict of interest disclosures.

The coauthors of both studies disclosed ties to pharmaceutical companies, grants from foundations and government agencies, a patent for a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, and author royalties from publishers.

[email protected]

Women who use substances during pregnancy need support and education, not judgment, to promote the best outcomes, according to a panel of experts speaking at the 2020 virtual meeting of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. The panelists highlighted several key issues for addressing alcohol, opioids, and cannabis use by pregnant women.

No amount of alcohol is safe

Highwaystarz-Photography/Thinkstock

Many women believe that a limited amount of alcohol is safe during pregnancy, in part because of mixed messages in the media suggesting that light drinking is okay, according to Erin Tracy Bradley, MD, MPH, of Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston.

“We need to do a better job teaching our patients about the potential dangers of alcohol,” Dr. Bradley said in her presentation.

In fact, data suggest that women more at risk for an alcohol-exposed pregnancy are older and better educated. Dr. Bradley described the pattern of malformation for fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) that includes small eyes, a thin upper lip, and smooth skin between the upper lip and nose.

“The only cause we know of [for FAS] is alcohol exposure intrauterine for the fetus,” so it is preventable with counseling and care, and thought to be the leading preventable cause of birth defects during pregnancies, she said.

The bottom line is that there is no safe amount of alcohol,” said Dr. Bradley. However, providers are inconsistent in discussing alcohol with their pregnant patients. In addition, universal screening is important because it is difficult to predict which women will be drinking during pregnancy.

Screening allows providers to quickly assess the severity of substance use, offer a brief intervention to raise patient awareness, and refer if necessary. “There should be ‘absolutely no judgment, no shame, no stigma,’ ” Dr. Bradley emphasized. “We are the patient’s partners, and we are trying to help them have a healthy pregnancy. “

Opioid use in pregnancy spiked in recent decades

“Women have always been overrepresented when opioids are involved,” said Tricia E. Wright, MD, of the University of California, San Francisco.

Long-term studies have shown that, overall, women are more likely to be given opioids and given higher doses, compared with men, often for conditions in which opioids are not effective, she noted.

Women use substances differently than men; “they use them to cope with everyday life,” and a history of interpersonal violence and sexual assault are coming among women with opioid use disorders, said Dr. Wright.

The majority of women with opioid use disorders are of childbearing age, which has led to an increase in neonatal abstinence syndrome (NAS) said Dr. Wright.

She cited 2014 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report showing an increase in NAS from 1.2 per 1,000 hospital births in 2000 to 5.8 per 1,000 hospital births in 2012. This increase has led to “misguided” efforts to prevent NAS through opioid detoxification, Dr. Wright said. She and colleagues conducted a systematic review in 2018 and found that, in fact, the evidence does not support detoxification as a recommended treatment intervention during pregnancy.

Opioid agonist therapy has multiple benefits for both the mother and fetus, Dr. Wright said. Maternal benefits include reduction in overdose-related deaths; decrease in the risk of HIV, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C; and increased engagement in prenatal care and recovery treatment. Fetal benefits include reduced fetal stress with the reduced fluctuations in maternal opioid levels, as well as decreases in intrauterine fetal death, intrauterine growth restriction, and preterm delivery.

“We know that relapse kills” because patients lose their tolerance, Dr. Wright said. “What we have seen is that overdose deaths are a leading cause of death in the postpartum period.”

When it comes to treatment, both methadone and buprenorphine are safe and effective options in pregnancy, she said. Treatment decisions should be made based on available options, patient preference, and a patient’s previous treatment experiences, as well as disease severity, social support, and the intensity of treatment needed.

“Whatever medicine you choose, it takes a village to coordinate the care,” Dr. Wright said. Maternal dose has no effect on neonatal withdrawal, so women should be encouraged to report any concerns. Either medication is compatible with breastfeeding. In fact, breastfeeding has many benefits in preventing neonatal withdrawal syndrome. Smoking cessation should be encouraged because it improves neonatal withdrawal.

Minimizing stigma is paramount, said Dr. Wright. “Substance use disorders are among the most stigmatized medical conditions, and pregnant women with substance use disorders are even more stigmatized.”

Clinicians can support patients by focusing on appropriate language, patients aren’t “addicts,” they are people with an opioid use disorder, she said.

Compassionate care for cannabis users

Cannabis use has a long history of association with women’s health, said Mishka Terplan, MD, MPH, of Friends Research Institute, Baltimore. Although cannabis use overall has increased steadily in recent years, data indicate that people who are pregnant are less likely to use cannabis than those who aren’t. The exception is that individuals who report using cannabis for medical purposes only remain consistent cannabis users during pregnancy.

“The concern is cannabis and birth outcomes, as well as developmental outcomes,” Dr. Terplan said. Multiple studies on this topic support several systematic reviews, and “depending on which decade you read, the results differ slightly.”

Reviews from the 1990s showed little to no effect on birth weight, but more recent studies, such as a meta-analysis published in BMJ Open in 2015, showed increased risk of neonatal outcomes such as low birth weight, anemia, and odds of admission to the neonatal ICU.

“The difference in these two eras is thought to be caused by the change in the definition of what cannabis is, and the potency has increased, and possibly therefore, as a consequence, we see outcomes we hadn’t seen before,” Dr. Terplan explained.

There is a concern with increased use and increased legalization that, there could be adverse effects on neonatal health, but recent studies in Colorado do not show a significant difference in neonatal outcomes before and after legalization, he said.

Data from pregnant women suggest that with regard to cannabis, they are concerned about their health, but they tend to seek information about cannabis use in pregnancy from family, friends, and the Internet rather than their health providers, said Dr. Terplan.

However, studies also show that providers tend to fall short and do a poor job of talking to pregnant patients about cannabis. When providers do discuss cannabis, they tend to focus on the legal aspects. “We are failing our patients when it comes to cannabis,” Dr. Terplan said. “We don’t provide the information and support they need and desire.” Instead, many providers “deploy urine drug testing, which we misinterpret.”

Dr. Terplan explained that point-of-care cannabis testing that shows “THC” is not measuring tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive compound; rather it captures the nonpsychoactive metabolite of THC, one that sticks around for a long time in the biological compartment.

Dr. Terplan urged clinicians not to use urine tests as a default indicator of cannabis use, but instead, “we need to sit, listen, and work with our patients from a place of empathy.”
 

Questions answered

During a question-and-answer session following the panel, Dr. Bradley was asked about preconception counseling related to alcohol consumption.

“Preconception time is a perfect time to do screening, or offer contraception if a patient is a place where she doesn’t want to become pregnant or if she wants to take advantage of any therapeutic options to get well prior to pregnancy,” she said.

Dr. Wright responded to a question about the impact of punitive actions such as drug testing and incarceration. “These things decrease the chance that patients will get adequate prenatal care,” she said. “We need to advocate for our patients and advocate for changing drug laws.”

Dr. Terplan responded to a question about the impact of substance use on parenting. Parents use nicotine, alcohol, and also cannabis, he said. Data showing an association between substance use and cases of child abuse and neglect, “are of poor quality and do not support this association.”

Overall, “we need to have consistent messaging that we are not there to judge patients,” Dr. Bradley added. “The last thing we want is for patients not to be honest with us.”

Dr. Wright disclosed consulting fees from McKesson and royalties as the coauthor of a book, “Opioid-Use Disorders in Pregnancy.” Dr. Bradley had no financial conflicts to disclose. Dr. Terplan had no financial conflicts to disclose.

Women who use substances during pregnancy need support and education, not judgment, to promote the best outcomes, according to a panel of experts speaking at the 2020 virtual meeting of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. The panelists highlighted several key issues for addressing alcohol, opioids, and cannabis use by pregnant women.

No amount of alcohol is safe

Highwaystarz-Photography/Thinkstock

Many women believe that a limited amount of alcohol is safe during pregnancy, in part because of mixed messages in the media suggesting that light drinking is okay, according to Erin Tracy Bradley, MD, MPH, of Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston.

“We need to do a better job teaching our patients about the potential dangers of alcohol,” Dr. Bradley said in her presentation.

In fact, data suggest that women more at risk for an alcohol-exposed pregnancy are older and better educated. Dr. Bradley described the pattern of malformation for fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) that includes small eyes, a thin upper lip, and smooth skin between the upper lip and nose.

“The only cause we know of [for FAS] is alcohol exposure intrauterine for the fetus,” so it is preventable with counseling and care, and thought to be the leading preventable cause of birth defects during pregnancies, she said.

The bottom line is that there is no safe amount of alcohol,” said Dr. Bradley. However, providers are inconsistent in discussing alcohol with their pregnant patients. In addition, universal screening is important because it is difficult to predict which women will be drinking during pregnancy.

Screening allows providers to quickly assess the severity of substance use, offer a brief intervention to raise patient awareness, and refer if necessary. “There should be ‘absolutely no judgment, no shame, no stigma,’ ” Dr. Bradley emphasized. “We are the patient’s partners, and we are trying to help them have a healthy pregnancy. “

Opioid use in pregnancy spiked in recent decades

“Women have always been overrepresented when opioids are involved,” said Tricia E. Wright, MD, of the University of California, San Francisco.

Long-term studies have shown that, overall, women are more likely to be given opioids and given higher doses, compared with men, often for conditions in which opioids are not effective, she noted.

Women use substances differently than men; “they use them to cope with everyday life,” and a history of interpersonal violence and sexual assault are coming among women with opioid use disorders, said Dr. Wright.

The majority of women with opioid use disorders are of childbearing age, which has led to an increase in neonatal abstinence syndrome (NAS) said Dr. Wright.

She cited 2014 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report showing an increase in NAS from 1.2 per 1,000 hospital births in 2000 to 5.8 per 1,000 hospital births in 2012. This increase has led to “misguided” efforts to prevent NAS through opioid detoxification, Dr. Wright said. She and colleagues conducted a systematic review in 2018 and found that, in fact, the evidence does not support detoxification as a recommended treatment intervention during pregnancy.

Opioid agonist therapy has multiple benefits for both the mother and fetus, Dr. Wright said. Maternal benefits include reduction in overdose-related deaths; decrease in the risk of HIV, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C; and increased engagement in prenatal care and recovery treatment. Fetal benefits include reduced fetal stress with the reduced fluctuations in maternal opioid levels, as well as decreases in intrauterine fetal death, intrauterine growth restriction, and preterm delivery.

“We know that relapse kills” because patients lose their tolerance, Dr. Wright said. “What we have seen is that overdose deaths are a leading cause of death in the postpartum period.”

When it comes to treatment, both methadone and buprenorphine are safe and effective options in pregnancy, she said. Treatment decisions should be made based on available options, patient preference, and a patient’s previous treatment experiences, as well as disease severity, social support, and the intensity of treatment needed.

“Whatever medicine you choose, it takes a village to coordinate the care,” Dr. Wright said. Maternal dose has no effect on neonatal withdrawal, so women should be encouraged to report any concerns. Either medication is compatible with breastfeeding. In fact, breastfeeding has many benefits in preventing neonatal withdrawal syndrome. Smoking cessation should be encouraged because it improves neonatal withdrawal.

Minimizing stigma is paramount, said Dr. Wright. “Substance use disorders are among the most stigmatized medical conditions, and pregnant women with substance use disorders are even more stigmatized.”

Clinicians can support patients by focusing on appropriate language, patients aren’t “addicts,” they are people with an opioid use disorder, she said.

Compassionate care for cannabis users

Cannabis use has a long history of association with women’s health, said Mishka Terplan, MD, MPH, of Friends Research Institute, Baltimore. Although cannabis use overall has increased steadily in recent years, data indicate that people who are pregnant are less likely to use cannabis than those who aren’t. The exception is that individuals who report using cannabis for medical purposes only remain consistent cannabis users during pregnancy.

“The concern is cannabis and birth outcomes, as well as developmental outcomes,” Dr. Terplan said. Multiple studies on this topic support several systematic reviews, and “depending on which decade you read, the results differ slightly.”

Reviews from the 1990s showed little to no effect on birth weight, but more recent studies, such as a meta-analysis published in BMJ Open in 2015, showed increased risk of neonatal outcomes such as low birth weight, anemia, and odds of admission to the neonatal ICU.

“The difference in these two eras is thought to be caused by the change in the definition of what cannabis is, and the potency has increased, and possibly therefore, as a consequence, we see outcomes we hadn’t seen before,” Dr. Terplan explained.

There is a concern with increased use and increased legalization that, there could be adverse effects on neonatal health, but recent studies in Colorado do not show a significant difference in neonatal outcomes before and after legalization, he said.

Data from pregnant women suggest that with regard to cannabis, they are concerned about their health, but they tend to seek information about cannabis use in pregnancy from family, friends, and the Internet rather than their health providers, said Dr. Terplan.

However, studies also show that providers tend to fall short and do a poor job of talking to pregnant patients about cannabis. When providers do discuss cannabis, they tend to focus on the legal aspects. “We are failing our patients when it comes to cannabis,” Dr. Terplan said. “We don’t provide the information and support they need and desire.” Instead, many providers “deploy urine drug testing, which we misinterpret.”

Dr. Terplan explained that point-of-care cannabis testing that shows “THC” is not measuring tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive compound; rather it captures the nonpsychoactive metabolite of THC, one that sticks around for a long time in the biological compartment.

Dr. Terplan urged clinicians not to use urine tests as a default indicator of cannabis use, but instead, “we need to sit, listen, and work with our patients from a place of empathy.”
 

Questions answered

During a question-and-answer session following the panel, Dr. Bradley was asked about preconception counseling related to alcohol consumption.

“Preconception time is a perfect time to do screening, or offer contraception if a patient is a place where she doesn’t want to become pregnant or if she wants to take advantage of any therapeutic options to get well prior to pregnancy,” she said.

Dr. Wright responded to a question about the impact of punitive actions such as drug testing and incarceration. “These things decrease the chance that patients will get adequate prenatal care,” she said. “We need to advocate for our patients and advocate for changing drug laws.”

Dr. Terplan responded to a question about the impact of substance use on parenting. Parents use nicotine, alcohol, and also cannabis, he said. Data showing an association between substance use and cases of child abuse and neglect, “are of poor quality and do not support this association.”

Overall, “we need to have consistent messaging that we are not there to judge patients,” Dr. Bradley added. “The last thing we want is for patients not to be honest with us.”

Dr. Wright disclosed consulting fees from McKesson and royalties as the coauthor of a book, “Opioid-Use Disorders in Pregnancy.” Dr. Bradley had no financial conflicts to disclose. Dr. Terplan had no financial conflicts to disclose.

Women who use substances during pregnancy need support and education, not judgment, to promote the best outcomes, according to a panel of experts speaking at the 2020 virtual meeting of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. The panelists highlighted several key issues for addressing alcohol, opioids, and cannabis use by pregnant women.

No amount of alcohol is safe

Highwaystarz-Photography/Thinkstock

Many women believe that a limited amount of alcohol is safe during pregnancy, in part because of mixed messages in the media suggesting that light drinking is okay, according to Erin Tracy Bradley, MD, MPH, of Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston.

“We need to do a better job teaching our patients about the potential dangers of alcohol,” Dr. Bradley said in her presentation.

In fact, data suggest that women more at risk for an alcohol-exposed pregnancy are older and better educated. Dr. Bradley described the pattern of malformation for fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) that includes small eyes, a thin upper lip, and smooth skin between the upper lip and nose.

“The only cause we know of [for FAS] is alcohol exposure intrauterine for the fetus,” so it is preventable with counseling and care, and thought to be the leading preventable cause of birth defects during pregnancies, she said.

The bottom line is that there is no safe amount of alcohol,” said Dr. Bradley. However, providers are inconsistent in discussing alcohol with their pregnant patients. In addition, universal screening is important because it is difficult to predict which women will be drinking during pregnancy.

Screening allows providers to quickly assess the severity of substance use, offer a brief intervention to raise patient awareness, and refer if necessary. “There should be ‘absolutely no judgment, no shame, no stigma,’ ” Dr. Bradley emphasized. “We are the patient’s partners, and we are trying to help them have a healthy pregnancy. “

Opioid use in pregnancy spiked in recent decades

“Women have always been overrepresented when opioids are involved,” said Tricia E. Wright, MD, of the University of California, San Francisco.

Long-term studies have shown that, overall, women are more likely to be given opioids and given higher doses, compared with men, often for conditions in which opioids are not effective, she noted.

Women use substances differently than men; “they use them to cope with everyday life,” and a history of interpersonal violence and sexual assault are coming among women with opioid use disorders, said Dr. Wright.

The majority of women with opioid use disorders are of childbearing age, which has led to an increase in neonatal abstinence syndrome (NAS) said Dr. Wright.

She cited 2014 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report showing an increase in NAS from 1.2 per 1,000 hospital births in 2000 to 5.8 per 1,000 hospital births in 2012. This increase has led to “misguided” efforts to prevent NAS through opioid detoxification, Dr. Wright said. She and colleagues conducted a systematic review in 2018 and found that, in fact, the evidence does not support detoxification as a recommended treatment intervention during pregnancy.

Opioid agonist therapy has multiple benefits for both the mother and fetus, Dr. Wright said. Maternal benefits include reduction in overdose-related deaths; decrease in the risk of HIV, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C; and increased engagement in prenatal care and recovery treatment. Fetal benefits include reduced fetal stress with the reduced fluctuations in maternal opioid levels, as well as decreases in intrauterine fetal death, intrauterine growth restriction, and preterm delivery.

“We know that relapse kills” because patients lose their tolerance, Dr. Wright said. “What we have seen is that overdose deaths are a leading cause of death in the postpartum period.”

When it comes to treatment, both methadone and buprenorphine are safe and effective options in pregnancy, she said. Treatment decisions should be made based on available options, patient preference, and a patient’s previous treatment experiences, as well as disease severity, social support, and the intensity of treatment needed.

“Whatever medicine you choose, it takes a village to coordinate the care,” Dr. Wright said. Maternal dose has no effect on neonatal withdrawal, so women should be encouraged to report any concerns. Either medication is compatible with breastfeeding. In fact, breastfeeding has many benefits in preventing neonatal withdrawal syndrome. Smoking cessation should be encouraged because it improves neonatal withdrawal.

Minimizing stigma is paramount, said Dr. Wright. “Substance use disorders are among the most stigmatized medical conditions, and pregnant women with substance use disorders are even more stigmatized.”

Clinicians can support patients by focusing on appropriate language, patients aren’t “addicts,” they are people with an opioid use disorder, she said.

Compassionate care for cannabis users

Cannabis use has a long history of association with women’s health, said Mishka Terplan, MD, MPH, of Friends Research Institute, Baltimore. Although cannabis use overall has increased steadily in recent years, data indicate that people who are pregnant are less likely to use cannabis than those who aren’t. The exception is that individuals who report using cannabis for medical purposes only remain consistent cannabis users during pregnancy.

“The concern is cannabis and birth outcomes, as well as developmental outcomes,” Dr. Terplan said. Multiple studies on this topic support several systematic reviews, and “depending on which decade you read, the results differ slightly.”

Reviews from the 1990s showed little to no effect on birth weight, but more recent studies, such as a meta-analysis published in BMJ Open in 2015, showed increased risk of neonatal outcomes such as low birth weight, anemia, and odds of admission to the neonatal ICU.

“The difference in these two eras is thought to be caused by the change in the definition of what cannabis is, and the potency has increased, and possibly therefore, as a consequence, we see outcomes we hadn’t seen before,” Dr. Terplan explained.

There is a concern with increased use and increased legalization that, there could be adverse effects on neonatal health, but recent studies in Colorado do not show a significant difference in neonatal outcomes before and after legalization, he said.

Data from pregnant women suggest that with regard to cannabis, they are concerned about their health, but they tend to seek information about cannabis use in pregnancy from family, friends, and the Internet rather than their health providers, said Dr. Terplan.

However, studies also show that providers tend to fall short and do a poor job of talking to pregnant patients about cannabis. When providers do discuss cannabis, they tend to focus on the legal aspects. “We are failing our patients when it comes to cannabis,” Dr. Terplan said. “We don’t provide the information and support they need and desire.” Instead, many providers “deploy urine drug testing, which we misinterpret.”

Dr. Terplan explained that point-of-care cannabis testing that shows “THC” is not measuring tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive compound; rather it captures the nonpsychoactive metabolite of THC, one that sticks around for a long time in the biological compartment.

Dr. Terplan urged clinicians not to use urine tests as a default indicator of cannabis use, but instead, “we need to sit, listen, and work with our patients from a place of empathy.”
 

Questions answered

During a question-and-answer session following the panel, Dr. Bradley was asked about preconception counseling related to alcohol consumption.

“Preconception time is a perfect time to do screening, or offer contraception if a patient is a place where she doesn’t want to become pregnant or if she wants to take advantage of any therapeutic options to get well prior to pregnancy,” she said.

Dr. Wright responded to a question about the impact of punitive actions such as drug testing and incarceration. “These things decrease the chance that patients will get adequate prenatal care,” she said. “We need to advocate for our patients and advocate for changing drug laws.”

Dr. Terplan responded to a question about the impact of substance use on parenting. Parents use nicotine, alcohol, and also cannabis, he said. Data showing an association between substance use and cases of child abuse and neglect, “are of poor quality and do not support this association.”

Overall, “we need to have consistent messaging that we are not there to judge patients,” Dr. Bradley added. “The last thing we want is for patients not to be honest with us.”

Dr. Wright disclosed consulting fees from McKesson and royalties as the coauthor of a book, “Opioid-Use Disorders in Pregnancy.” Dr. Bradley had no financial conflicts to disclose. Dr. Terplan had no financial conflicts to disclose.

About 20% of gestational carriers at one institution did not meet recommended criteria developed by the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, according to a retrospective study of 194 patients.

The University of California, San Francisco, offers additional, stricter recommendations, including that gestational carriers have a body mass index less than 35. Under these stricter criteria, about 30% of the gestational carriers did not meet recommendations, Brett Stark, MD, MPH, reported at the American Society for Reproductive Medicine’s 2020 annual meeting, held virtually this year.

Deviating from BMI or age recommendations may be associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion, the analysis suggested. In addition, elements of a gestational carrier’s obstetric history not described in current guidelines, such as prior preterm birth, may influence gestational surrogacy outcomes.

The study was limited by incomplete information for some patients, the retrospective design, and the reliance on a relatively small cohort at a single center. Nevertheless, the findings potentially could inform discussions with patients, said Dr. Stark, a 3rd-year obstetrics and gynecology resident at the university.

Investigators aim to enroll patients in a longitudinal cohort study to further examine these questions, he said.

Protecting intended parents and carriers

“Gestational surrogacy has become an increasingly common form of third-party reproduction,” Dr. Stark said at the virtual meeting. The number of cases of in vitro fertilization (IVF) with gestational carriers increased from approximately 700 in 1999 to more than 5,500 in 2016, according to data from the Society for Assisted Reproductive Technology. “Despite the increasing prevalence of gestational carrier utilization, there remains limited guidance with regard to optimizing outcomes for both the intended parents and gestational carriers.”

ASRM and UCSF recommendations are based on expert opinion and include surprisingly little discussion about the prior pregnancy outcomes of potential gestational carriers, Dr. Stark said.

“It is important for all parties involved that we generate research and data that can help drive the development of the guidelines,” he said. Such evidence may help intended parents understand characteristics of gestational carriers that may lead to live births. “For the gestational carriers, it is important that we have information on safety so that they know they are making appropriate decisions for their family and their life.”

Gestational carrier characteristics in the present study that deviated from 2017 ASRM recommendations included age less than 21 years or greater than 45 years, mental health conditions, and having more than five prior deliveries.

“ASRM guidelines focused on criteria for gestational carriers are meant to protect infertile couples, the carrier, as well as the supporting agency,” Alan Penzias, MD, chair of ASRM’s Practice Committee who is in private practice in Boston, said in a society news release that highlighted Dr. Stark’s study. “It is important that gestational carriers have a complete medical history and examination, in addition to a psychological session with a mental health professional to ensure there are no reasons for the carrier to not move forward with pregnancy.”

A retrospective study by Kate Swanson, MD, and associates found that nonadherence to ASRM guidelines was associated with increased rates of cesarean delivery, neonatal morbidity, and preterm birth.

To examine how adherence to ASRM and UCSF recommendations relates to pregnancy outcomes and maternal and neonatal morbidity and death, Dr. Stark and colleagues assessed births from gestational carrier pregnancies at UCSF between 2008 and 2019.

Of 194 gestational carriers included in the analysis, 98.9% had a prior term pregnancy, 11.9% had a prior preterm pregnancy, and 17.5% had a prior spontaneous abortion.

Indications for use of gestational surrogates included serious medical condition of intended parent (25%), uterine factor infertility (23%), recurrent pregnancy loss (10%), and same-sex male couples (8%).

When the researchers compared pregnancy outcomes for gestational carriers who met ASRM guidelines with outcomes for 38 gestational carriers who did not meet ASRM guidelines, there were no statistically significant differences. Antepartum, intrapartum, and postpartum complication rates and cesarean delivery rates did not significantly differ based on ASRM guideline adherence.

Nonadherence to the stricter UCSF guidelines, however, was associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion. In all, 23.7% of the 59 gestational carriers who were nonadherent to UCSF guidelines had a pregnancy end in a spontaneous abortion, compared with 6.7% of gestational carriers who were adherent to the UCSF recommendations (odds ratio, 4.35).

An analysis of individual criteria and poor pregnancy outcomes found that BMI greater than 35 was associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion (OR, 4.29), as was age less than 21 years or greater than 45 years (OR, 3.37).

Prior spontaneous abortion was associated with increased likelihood of a biochemical pregnancy (OR, 3.2), and prior preterm birth was associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion (OR, 3.19), previable delivery (OR, 25.2), cesarean delivery (OR, 2.59), and antepartum complications (OR, 3.56).
 

The role of agencies

About 76% of the gestational carriers had pregnancies mediated through a gestational surrogacy agency. Surrogates from agencies were about three times more likely than surrogates who were family, friends, or from private surrogacy arrangements to adhere to ASRM and UCSF guidelines.

Even after hearing about gestational carrier recommendations, patients may prefer to work with someone they know. “We want to provide our patients with evidence-based information if possible, but ultimately it is their decision to make,” Dr. Stark said. “And we just need to make sure that they are making an informed decision.”

Dr. Stark had no relevant disclosures. Dr. Penzias helped develop the ASRM committee opinion. He had no relevant conflicts of interest.

[email protected]

SOURCE: Stark B et al. ASRM 2020, Abstract O-251.

About 20% of gestational carriers at one institution did not meet recommended criteria developed by the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, according to a retrospective study of 194 patients.

The University of California, San Francisco, offers additional, stricter recommendations, including that gestational carriers have a body mass index less than 35. Under these stricter criteria, about 30% of the gestational carriers did not meet recommendations, Brett Stark, MD, MPH, reported at the American Society for Reproductive Medicine’s 2020 annual meeting, held virtually this year.

Deviating from BMI or age recommendations may be associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion, the analysis suggested. In addition, elements of a gestational carrier’s obstetric history not described in current guidelines, such as prior preterm birth, may influence gestational surrogacy outcomes.

The study was limited by incomplete information for some patients, the retrospective design, and the reliance on a relatively small cohort at a single center. Nevertheless, the findings potentially could inform discussions with patients, said Dr. Stark, a 3rd-year obstetrics and gynecology resident at the university.

Investigators aim to enroll patients in a longitudinal cohort study to further examine these questions, he said.

Protecting intended parents and carriers

“Gestational surrogacy has become an increasingly common form of third-party reproduction,” Dr. Stark said at the virtual meeting. The number of cases of in vitro fertilization (IVF) with gestational carriers increased from approximately 700 in 1999 to more than 5,500 in 2016, according to data from the Society for Assisted Reproductive Technology. “Despite the increasing prevalence of gestational carrier utilization, there remains limited guidance with regard to optimizing outcomes for both the intended parents and gestational carriers.”

ASRM and UCSF recommendations are based on expert opinion and include surprisingly little discussion about the prior pregnancy outcomes of potential gestational carriers, Dr. Stark said.

“It is important for all parties involved that we generate research and data that can help drive the development of the guidelines,” he said. Such evidence may help intended parents understand characteristics of gestational carriers that may lead to live births. “For the gestational carriers, it is important that we have information on safety so that they know they are making appropriate decisions for their family and their life.”

Gestational carrier characteristics in the present study that deviated from 2017 ASRM recommendations included age less than 21 years or greater than 45 years, mental health conditions, and having more than five prior deliveries.

“ASRM guidelines focused on criteria for gestational carriers are meant to protect infertile couples, the carrier, as well as the supporting agency,” Alan Penzias, MD, chair of ASRM’s Practice Committee who is in private practice in Boston, said in a society news release that highlighted Dr. Stark’s study. “It is important that gestational carriers have a complete medical history and examination, in addition to a psychological session with a mental health professional to ensure there are no reasons for the carrier to not move forward with pregnancy.”

A retrospective study by Kate Swanson, MD, and associates found that nonadherence to ASRM guidelines was associated with increased rates of cesarean delivery, neonatal morbidity, and preterm birth.

To examine how adherence to ASRM and UCSF recommendations relates to pregnancy outcomes and maternal and neonatal morbidity and death, Dr. Stark and colleagues assessed births from gestational carrier pregnancies at UCSF between 2008 and 2019.

Of 194 gestational carriers included in the analysis, 98.9% had a prior term pregnancy, 11.9% had a prior preterm pregnancy, and 17.5% had a prior spontaneous abortion.

Indications for use of gestational surrogates included serious medical condition of intended parent (25%), uterine factor infertility (23%), recurrent pregnancy loss (10%), and same-sex male couples (8%).

When the researchers compared pregnancy outcomes for gestational carriers who met ASRM guidelines with outcomes for 38 gestational carriers who did not meet ASRM guidelines, there were no statistically significant differences. Antepartum, intrapartum, and postpartum complication rates and cesarean delivery rates did not significantly differ based on ASRM guideline adherence.

Nonadherence to the stricter UCSF guidelines, however, was associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion. In all, 23.7% of the 59 gestational carriers who were nonadherent to UCSF guidelines had a pregnancy end in a spontaneous abortion, compared with 6.7% of gestational carriers who were adherent to the UCSF recommendations (odds ratio, 4.35).

An analysis of individual criteria and poor pregnancy outcomes found that BMI greater than 35 was associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion (OR, 4.29), as was age less than 21 years or greater than 45 years (OR, 3.37).

Prior spontaneous abortion was associated with increased likelihood of a biochemical pregnancy (OR, 3.2), and prior preterm birth was associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion (OR, 3.19), previable delivery (OR, 25.2), cesarean delivery (OR, 2.59), and antepartum complications (OR, 3.56).
 

The role of agencies

About 76% of the gestational carriers had pregnancies mediated through a gestational surrogacy agency. Surrogates from agencies were about three times more likely than surrogates who were family, friends, or from private surrogacy arrangements to adhere to ASRM and UCSF guidelines.

Even after hearing about gestational carrier recommendations, patients may prefer to work with someone they know. “We want to provide our patients with evidence-based information if possible, but ultimately it is their decision to make,” Dr. Stark said. “And we just need to make sure that they are making an informed decision.”

Dr. Stark had no relevant disclosures. Dr. Penzias helped develop the ASRM committee opinion. He had no relevant conflicts of interest.

[email protected]

SOURCE: Stark B et al. ASRM 2020, Abstract O-251.

About 20% of gestational carriers at one institution did not meet recommended criteria developed by the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, according to a retrospective study of 194 patients.

The University of California, San Francisco, offers additional, stricter recommendations, including that gestational carriers have a body mass index less than 35. Under these stricter criteria, about 30% of the gestational carriers did not meet recommendations, Brett Stark, MD, MPH, reported at the American Society for Reproductive Medicine’s 2020 annual meeting, held virtually this year.

Deviating from BMI or age recommendations may be associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion, the analysis suggested. In addition, elements of a gestational carrier’s obstetric history not described in current guidelines, such as prior preterm birth, may influence gestational surrogacy outcomes.

The study was limited by incomplete information for some patients, the retrospective design, and the reliance on a relatively small cohort at a single center. Nevertheless, the findings potentially could inform discussions with patients, said Dr. Stark, a 3rd-year obstetrics and gynecology resident at the university.

Investigators aim to enroll patients in a longitudinal cohort study to further examine these questions, he said.

Protecting intended parents and carriers

“Gestational surrogacy has become an increasingly common form of third-party reproduction,” Dr. Stark said at the virtual meeting. The number of cases of in vitro fertilization (IVF) with gestational carriers increased from approximately 700 in 1999 to more than 5,500 in 2016, according to data from the Society for Assisted Reproductive Technology. “Despite the increasing prevalence of gestational carrier utilization, there remains limited guidance with regard to optimizing outcomes for both the intended parents and gestational carriers.”

ASRM and UCSF recommendations are based on expert opinion and include surprisingly little discussion about the prior pregnancy outcomes of potential gestational carriers, Dr. Stark said.

“It is important for all parties involved that we generate research and data that can help drive the development of the guidelines,” he said. Such evidence may help intended parents understand characteristics of gestational carriers that may lead to live births. “For the gestational carriers, it is important that we have information on safety so that they know they are making appropriate decisions for their family and their life.”

Gestational carrier characteristics in the present study that deviated from 2017 ASRM recommendations included age less than 21 years or greater than 45 years, mental health conditions, and having more than five prior deliveries.

“ASRM guidelines focused on criteria for gestational carriers are meant to protect infertile couples, the carrier, as well as the supporting agency,” Alan Penzias, MD, chair of ASRM’s Practice Committee who is in private practice in Boston, said in a society news release that highlighted Dr. Stark’s study. “It is important that gestational carriers have a complete medical history and examination, in addition to a psychological session with a mental health professional to ensure there are no reasons for the carrier to not move forward with pregnancy.”

A retrospective study by Kate Swanson, MD, and associates found that nonadherence to ASRM guidelines was associated with increased rates of cesarean delivery, neonatal morbidity, and preterm birth.

To examine how adherence to ASRM and UCSF recommendations relates to pregnancy outcomes and maternal and neonatal morbidity and death, Dr. Stark and colleagues assessed births from gestational carrier pregnancies at UCSF between 2008 and 2019.

Of 194 gestational carriers included in the analysis, 98.9% had a prior term pregnancy, 11.9% had a prior preterm pregnancy, and 17.5% had a prior spontaneous abortion.

Indications for use of gestational surrogates included serious medical condition of intended parent (25%), uterine factor infertility (23%), recurrent pregnancy loss (10%), and same-sex male couples (8%).

When the researchers compared pregnancy outcomes for gestational carriers who met ASRM guidelines with outcomes for 38 gestational carriers who did not meet ASRM guidelines, there were no statistically significant differences. Antepartum, intrapartum, and postpartum complication rates and cesarean delivery rates did not significantly differ based on ASRM guideline adherence.

Nonadherence to the stricter UCSF guidelines, however, was associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion. In all, 23.7% of the 59 gestational carriers who were nonadherent to UCSF guidelines had a pregnancy end in a spontaneous abortion, compared with 6.7% of gestational carriers who were adherent to the UCSF recommendations (odds ratio, 4.35).

An analysis of individual criteria and poor pregnancy outcomes found that BMI greater than 35 was associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion (OR, 4.29), as was age less than 21 years or greater than 45 years (OR, 3.37).

Prior spontaneous abortion was associated with increased likelihood of a biochemical pregnancy (OR, 3.2), and prior preterm birth was associated with increased likelihood of spontaneous abortion (OR, 3.19), previable delivery (OR, 25.2), cesarean delivery (OR, 2.59), and antepartum complications (OR, 3.56).
 

The role of agencies

About 76% of the gestational carriers had pregnancies mediated through a gestational surrogacy agency. Surrogates from agencies were about three times more likely than surrogates who were family, friends, or from private surrogacy arrangements to adhere to ASRM and UCSF guidelines.

Even after hearing about gestational carrier recommendations, patients may prefer to work with someone they know. “We want to provide our patients with evidence-based information if possible, but ultimately it is their decision to make,” Dr. Stark said. “And we just need to make sure that they are making an informed decision.”

Dr. Stark had no relevant disclosures. Dr. Penzias helped develop the ASRM committee opinion. He had no relevant conflicts of interest.

[email protected]

SOURCE: Stark B et al. ASRM 2020, Abstract O-251.

COVID-19 vaccines should not be withheld from people who are pregnant or lactating and want to be vaccinated, despite a lack of safety data in these populations, according to guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine.

Thye Aun Ngo/Fotolia.com

Pregnant women who opt not to receive the vaccine should be supported in that decision as well, a practice advisory from ACOG recommends.

“Pregnant women who experience fever following vaccination should be counseled to take acetaminophen,” the advisory notes.

In addition, women do not need to avoid pregnancy after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, according to the CDC’s interim clinical considerations for its use. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization for the vaccine on Dec. 11.

Although investigators excluded pregnant women from clinical trials, experts believe that mRNA vaccines, which are not live vaccines, “are unlikely to pose a risk for people who are pregnant” and “are not thought to be a risk to the breastfeeding infant,” the CDC notes.

Meanwhile, women who are pregnant may be at greater risk of severe COVID-19, even though the absolute risk of severe illness is low. COVID-19 also may increase the risk of adverse pregnancy outcomes, such as preterm birth, although the data have been mixed with some studies finding an association and others not.

“If pregnant people are part of a group that is recommended to receive a COVID-19 vaccine (e.g., health care personnel), they may choose to be vaccinated,” the CDC advises. “A conversation between the patient and their clinical team may assist with decisions regarding the use of vaccines approved under EUA for the prevention of COVID-19. While a conversation with a health care provider may be helpful, it is not required prior to vaccination.”
 

Acknowledging side effects and uncertainty

ACOG’s advisory reiterates that approach. The group notes that, based on the mRNA vaccine’s mechanism of action and its safety and efficacy in clinical trials, “it is expected that the safety and efficacy profile of the vaccine for pregnant individuals would be similar to that observed in nonpregnant individuals ... That said, there are no safety data specific to mRNA vaccine use in pregnant or lactating individuals and the potential risks to a pregnant individual and the fetus are unknown.” 

In clinical trials, most participants experienced mild influenza-like symptoms following vaccination, including injection site reactions, fatigue, chills, muscle and joint pain, and headache. Among participants aged 18-55 years, fever greater than 38°C occurred in 3.7% of participants after the first dose and in 15.8% after the second dose. Most symptoms resolved within a few days. 

Women who are pregnant should treat fever with acetaminophen because “fever has been associated with adverse pregnancy outcomes,” according to the ACOG guidance. “Acetaminophen has been proven to be safe for use in pregnancy and does not appear to impact antibody response to COVID-19 vaccines.” Patients may treat other vaccine side effects, such as injection-site soreness with acetaminophen as well.

When counseling patients, clinicians should explain that side effects are a normal part of developing antibodies to protect against COVID-19. “Regardless of their decision,” the group says, “these conversations provide an opportunity to remind patients about the importance of other prevention measures such as hand washing, physical distancing, and wearing a mask.”
 

More data expected

Data from developmental and reproductive toxicity studies in animals are expected soon, the CDC said. In addition, the manufacturer is following clinical trial participants who became pregnant during the study. 

Women who are pregnant and their physicians should weigh factors such as the extent of COVID-19 transmission in the community, the patient’s risk of contracting COVID-19, risks of COVID-19 to the patient and fetus, vaccine efficacy and side effects, and the lack of data about COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy.

The Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine recommends that pregnant and lactating women have access to COVID-19 vaccines in general and has advocated for the inclusion of women who are pregnant or lactating in vaccine trials. The society has suggested that health care professionals “counsel their patients that the theoretical risk of fetal harm from mRNA vaccines is very low.” It published resources this week for physicians and patients focused on COVID-19 vaccination and pregnancy.

In a review published online Dec. 10 in the American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology MFM, Amanda M. Craig, MD, of Duke University Health System in Durham, N.C., and coauthors note that there “is a theoretical risk for fetal harm from any untested medical intervention and this is no different for COVID-19 vaccines.”

“Pregnant individuals should be given the opportunity, along with their obstetric provider, to weigh the potential risk of severe maternal disease against the unknown risk of fetal exposure, and make an autonomous decision about whether or not to accept vaccine until pregnancy safety data are available,” they write.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

COVID-19 vaccines should not be withheld from people who are pregnant or lactating and want to be vaccinated, despite a lack of safety data in these populations, according to guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine.

Thye Aun Ngo/Fotolia.com

Pregnant women who opt not to receive the vaccine should be supported in that decision as well, a practice advisory from ACOG recommends.

“Pregnant women who experience fever following vaccination should be counseled to take acetaminophen,” the advisory notes.

In addition, women do not need to avoid pregnancy after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, according to the CDC’s interim clinical considerations for its use. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization for the vaccine on Dec. 11.

Although investigators excluded pregnant women from clinical trials, experts believe that mRNA vaccines, which are not live vaccines, “are unlikely to pose a risk for people who are pregnant” and “are not thought to be a risk to the breastfeeding infant,” the CDC notes.

Meanwhile, women who are pregnant may be at greater risk of severe COVID-19, even though the absolute risk of severe illness is low. COVID-19 also may increase the risk of adverse pregnancy outcomes, such as preterm birth, although the data have been mixed with some studies finding an association and others not.

“If pregnant people are part of a group that is recommended to receive a COVID-19 vaccine (e.g., health care personnel), they may choose to be vaccinated,” the CDC advises. “A conversation between the patient and their clinical team may assist with decisions regarding the use of vaccines approved under EUA for the prevention of COVID-19. While a conversation with a health care provider may be helpful, it is not required prior to vaccination.”
 

Acknowledging side effects and uncertainty

ACOG’s advisory reiterates that approach. The group notes that, based on the mRNA vaccine’s mechanism of action and its safety and efficacy in clinical trials, “it is expected that the safety and efficacy profile of the vaccine for pregnant individuals would be similar to that observed in nonpregnant individuals ... That said, there are no safety data specific to mRNA vaccine use in pregnant or lactating individuals and the potential risks to a pregnant individual and the fetus are unknown.” 

In clinical trials, most participants experienced mild influenza-like symptoms following vaccination, including injection site reactions, fatigue, chills, muscle and joint pain, and headache. Among participants aged 18-55 years, fever greater than 38°C occurred in 3.7% of participants after the first dose and in 15.8% after the second dose. Most symptoms resolved within a few days. 

Women who are pregnant should treat fever with acetaminophen because “fever has been associated with adverse pregnancy outcomes,” according to the ACOG guidance. “Acetaminophen has been proven to be safe for use in pregnancy and does not appear to impact antibody response to COVID-19 vaccines.” Patients may treat other vaccine side effects, such as injection-site soreness with acetaminophen as well.

When counseling patients, clinicians should explain that side effects are a normal part of developing antibodies to protect against COVID-19. “Regardless of their decision,” the group says, “these conversations provide an opportunity to remind patients about the importance of other prevention measures such as hand washing, physical distancing, and wearing a mask.”
 

More data expected

Data from developmental and reproductive toxicity studies in animals are expected soon, the CDC said. In addition, the manufacturer is following clinical trial participants who became pregnant during the study. 

Women who are pregnant and their physicians should weigh factors such as the extent of COVID-19 transmission in the community, the patient’s risk of contracting COVID-19, risks of COVID-19 to the patient and fetus, vaccine efficacy and side effects, and the lack of data about COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy.

The Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine recommends that pregnant and lactating women have access to COVID-19 vaccines in general and has advocated for the inclusion of women who are pregnant or lactating in vaccine trials. The society has suggested that health care professionals “counsel their patients that the theoretical risk of fetal harm from mRNA vaccines is very low.” It published resources this week for physicians and patients focused on COVID-19 vaccination and pregnancy.

In a review published online Dec. 10 in the American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology MFM, Amanda M. Craig, MD, of Duke University Health System in Durham, N.C., and coauthors note that there “is a theoretical risk for fetal harm from any untested medical intervention and this is no different for COVID-19 vaccines.”

“Pregnant individuals should be given the opportunity, along with their obstetric provider, to weigh the potential risk of severe maternal disease against the unknown risk of fetal exposure, and make an autonomous decision about whether or not to accept vaccine until pregnancy safety data are available,” they write.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

COVID-19 vaccines should not be withheld from people who are pregnant or lactating and want to be vaccinated, despite a lack of safety data in these populations, according to guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine.

Thye Aun Ngo/Fotolia.com

Pregnant women who opt not to receive the vaccine should be supported in that decision as well, a practice advisory from ACOG recommends.

“Pregnant women who experience fever following vaccination should be counseled to take acetaminophen,” the advisory notes.

In addition, women do not need to avoid pregnancy after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, according to the CDC’s interim clinical considerations for its use. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization for the vaccine on Dec. 11.

Although investigators excluded pregnant women from clinical trials, experts believe that mRNA vaccines, which are not live vaccines, “are unlikely to pose a risk for people who are pregnant” and “are not thought to be a risk to the breastfeeding infant,” the CDC notes.

Meanwhile, women who are pregnant may be at greater risk of severe COVID-19, even though the absolute risk of severe illness is low. COVID-19 also may increase the risk of adverse pregnancy outcomes, such as preterm birth, although the data have been mixed with some studies finding an association and others not.

“If pregnant people are part of a group that is recommended to receive a COVID-19 vaccine (e.g., health care personnel), they may choose to be vaccinated,” the CDC advises. “A conversation between the patient and their clinical team may assist with decisions regarding the use of vaccines approved under EUA for the prevention of COVID-19. While a conversation with a health care provider may be helpful, it is not required prior to vaccination.”
 

Acknowledging side effects and uncertainty

ACOG’s advisory reiterates that approach. The group notes that, based on the mRNA vaccine’s mechanism of action and its safety and efficacy in clinical trials, “it is expected that the safety and efficacy profile of the vaccine for pregnant individuals would be similar to that observed in nonpregnant individuals ... That said, there are no safety data specific to mRNA vaccine use in pregnant or lactating individuals and the potential risks to a pregnant individual and the fetus are unknown.” 

In clinical trials, most participants experienced mild influenza-like symptoms following vaccination, including injection site reactions, fatigue, chills, muscle and joint pain, and headache. Among participants aged 18-55 years, fever greater than 38°C occurred in 3.7% of participants after the first dose and in 15.8% after the second dose. Most symptoms resolved within a few days. 

Women who are pregnant should treat fever with acetaminophen because “fever has been associated with adverse pregnancy outcomes,” according to the ACOG guidance. “Acetaminophen has been proven to be safe for use in pregnancy and does not appear to impact antibody response to COVID-19 vaccines.” Patients may treat other vaccine side effects, such as injection-site soreness with acetaminophen as well.

When counseling patients, clinicians should explain that side effects are a normal part of developing antibodies to protect against COVID-19. “Regardless of their decision,” the group says, “these conversations provide an opportunity to remind patients about the importance of other prevention measures such as hand washing, physical distancing, and wearing a mask.”
 

More data expected

Data from developmental and reproductive toxicity studies in animals are expected soon, the CDC said. In addition, the manufacturer is following clinical trial participants who became pregnant during the study. 

Women who are pregnant and their physicians should weigh factors such as the extent of COVID-19 transmission in the community, the patient’s risk of contracting COVID-19, risks of COVID-19 to the patient and fetus, vaccine efficacy and side effects, and the lack of data about COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy.

The Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine recommends that pregnant and lactating women have access to COVID-19 vaccines in general and has advocated for the inclusion of women who are pregnant or lactating in vaccine trials. The society has suggested that health care professionals “counsel their patients that the theoretical risk of fetal harm from mRNA vaccines is very low.” It published resources this week for physicians and patients focused on COVID-19 vaccination and pregnancy.

In a review published online Dec. 10 in the American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology MFM, Amanda M. Craig, MD, of Duke University Health System in Durham, N.C., and coauthors note that there “is a theoretical risk for fetal harm from any untested medical intervention and this is no different for COVID-19 vaccines.”

“Pregnant individuals should be given the opportunity, along with their obstetric provider, to weigh the potential risk of severe maternal disease against the unknown risk of fetal exposure, and make an autonomous decision about whether or not to accept vaccine until pregnancy safety data are available,” they write.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

With increasing whooping cough numbers, developing an effective new vaccine against Bordetella pertussis is a priority. Results from the multifactorial PERISCOPE Project will help scientists and clinicians move forward.

MarianVejcik/Getty Images

Dominic Kelly, PhD, talked about vaccine-induced immunity and provided an overview of ongoing clinical trials in the PERISCOPE (Pertussis Correlates of Protection Europe) project in a key research session at the start of the annual meeting of the European Society for Paediatric Infectious Diseases, held virtually this year. Dr. Kelly, a pediatrician at the Children’s Hospital in Oxford and a member of the Oxford Vaccines Group, leads one of the studies in the project looking at infant vaccination.

Dr. Kelly began his presentation by showing a figure depicting where vaccine-induced immunity fits into the larger suite of clinical studies. These studies involve mouse models, human challenge models, and infection patients. A key theme is the use of a core group of immunoassays across all studies, with the hope that they will allow effective cross comparisons.

Dr. Kelly stated, “If we find a correlate of protection in the challenge model, we can then interpret the vaccine studies in the light of that because we are using standardized constant immunoassays.”

The assays being used depend in part on the specific study and the volume of blood available. They will generally include Bordetella-specific antibody and functional antibody assays, as well as interesting studies collecting mucosal samples from infants and adults to look at serological responses. Also under examination are a range of enzyme-linked immune absorbent spot, flow cytometry, and culture techniques looking at Memory B cells, T cells, and gene expression.

Complementing these assay studies, PERISCOPE includes a series of clinical investigations designed to throw light on three areas of interest, described below:

First, researchers hope to gain a better understanding regarding the effects of the original whole cell vaccine versus the current acellular variety. The former uses an inactivated version of the whole organism. Epidemiological studies, animal data, and experience in the field demonstrate that whole-cell vaccination results in a broad, long-lasting, and effective immune response.

By comparison, the acellular pertussis vaccine consists of between three and five protein components, which are purified from cultured Bordetella pertussis. While it is an effective vaccine, its effects are less durable; routine use in some countries is associated with cyclical outbreaks of increasing severity.

A second issue for researchers involved in the PERISCOPE project concerns the effects of maternal immunization. In the United Kingdom in 2012, for example, an increasing number of cases were noted 6-7 years after adoption of an acellular vaccine for routine vaccination in the 2nd-3rd trimester of pregnancy. Vaccination appears to effectively control neonatal disease, but whether this influences infant immune responses and long-term control of pertussis for a population is unknown.

Finally, the group is interested in the effects of an acellular booster across all age groups. While the effects may be short-lived, the booster is a potential strategy for controlling a population by repeated boosting of immunity. This is another area where using novel immunoassays may aid better understanding.

To find answers, the consortium has established four studies: the Gambia Pertussis study (GaPs) in Gambia and AWARE, the sister study to GaPs in the United Kingdom, addressing the acellular pertussis versus cellular pertussis question; the Pertussis Maternal Immunization Study in Finland (MIFI) addressing maternal immunization; and the Booster against Pertussis (BERT) study across three countries (U.K., the Netherlands, and Finland) looking at acellular booster across age groups.
 

Gambia pertussis study

GaPs is the largest single study in the project and is being run at the Medical Research Council–funded London School of Tropical Medicine center in Gambia. Beate Kampmann, MD, PhD, of Imperial College London, England, is the project lead. It is due to complete in 2022. GaPs seeks to enroll 600 mother/infant pairs and randomize the mothers to either an acellular pertussis booster in pregnancy or a tetanus toxoid control vaccine. Infants are subsequently randomized to an acellular or whole-cell pertussis schedule of primary immunization. The vaccine doses are being given at 2, 3, and 4 months. The primary endpoint is a serological finding being measured at 9 months of age, when the infant would usually receive yellow fever, measles, and rubella vaccination.

GaPs has a number of pathways. Within each of the four arms generated by the two randomizations, the maternal randomization and the infant randomization, there are five subgroups. They are designed to study time points in subgroups A and B after the first dose in more detail, looking at the innate immune responses using gene expression. It will enable researchers to study adaptive immune responses to T cells and B cells after the second dose of vaccine. By employing a range of subgroups, the team can explore the immune profile using the assays referred to above. Such information should provide new insights into the differences between acellular and whole-cell vaccines.
 

The AWARE study

AWARE is the sister study to GaPs and looks at the acellular/whole pertussis issue. Because many developed countries, such as the United Kingdom, have established maternal immunization programs, it is not possible to randomize mothers. Consequently, researchers have opted to recruit infants of mothers who have received an acellular vaccine in pregnancy and randomize them to either an acellular schedule of primary immunization or a whole-cell schedule.

The selected vaccine is ComVac5 from Bharat Biotech. This whole-cell vaccine differs from that used in Gambia. An early obstacle for AWARE has been seeking permission to import a non-conventional vaccine into Europe. It has delayed the anticipated end date to 2023. Participating infants will receive a two-dose schedule at 2 and 4 months of age per their randomization; then, both groups will go on to receive an acellular pertussis booster at 12 months. At all time points, the team will sample blood for cells and serum, as well as mucosal fluid from the nose. Because the mucosal surface is where the action is, this approach will likely generate new data around antibody responses.
 

The MIFI

The Pertussis Maternal Immunization Study in Finland is being run by Jussi Mertsola, of the University of Turku, Finland, and Qiushui He, of the National Public Health Institute, Turku. It is due to complete in late 2021. Where, in the United Kingdom, researchers are unable to randomize mothers because of the current guidelines, researchers in Finland do not have a maternal immunization program to consider. MIFI will randomize 80 mothers, 40 to immunization with acellular pertussis and 40 to a control group. Dr. Kelly stated that whole cell vaccines are not available for use in Finland. Participants will receive a two-dose schedule at 3 and 5 months. Blood samples will then be taken to compare the serological and cellular responses, which will help researchers understand the effects of maternal immunization. In addition, there will be sampling of mucosal fluid using a device that collects a standardized aliquot of fluid.
 

The BERT study

The final clinical element of PERISCOPE presented by Dr. Kelly was the Booster against Pertussis study. This study is near completion. It seeks to examine the use of an acellular booster across different age groups and three countries: the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Finland. The study is being coordinated by Guy Berbers, PhD, at the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment in the Netherlands.

BERT comprises four cohorts (A, B, C, D) of different ages: 7-10 years (36 participants), 11-15 years (36 participants), mid-adult (25 participants), and older age (25 participants). After receiving an acellular booster, participants will undergo intense sampling. Sampling will take place immediately after immunization at day 7 and look at adaptive effects, then again at day 28 and day 365.

Because some participants will have already received whole cell or acellular vaccination, this approach will allow researchers to look at the effects of priming (i.e., how long the B cell/T cell antibody responses last).

Involving different countries across Europe ensures wide applicability of results, but also allows researchers to compare the effects of very different immunization histories.

At the end of this ESPID session, Dimitri Diavatopoulos, PhD, assistant professor at the Radboud University Medical Centre Nijmegen, the Netherlands, commented that a future problem in studying pertussis vaccines and their potential clinical application is that most vaccination schedules now involve combination products. Obtaining a stand-alone vaccination may prove difficult, and there may be resistance if it complicates current vaccination programs.

Dr. Kelly acknowledged funding for the PERISCOPE project from GlaxoSmithKline and Pasteur Sanofi.

With increasing whooping cough numbers, developing an effective new vaccine against Bordetella pertussis is a priority. Results from the multifactorial PERISCOPE Project will help scientists and clinicians move forward.

MarianVejcik/Getty Images

Dominic Kelly, PhD, talked about vaccine-induced immunity and provided an overview of ongoing clinical trials in the PERISCOPE (Pertussis Correlates of Protection Europe) project in a key research session at the start of the annual meeting of the European Society for Paediatric Infectious Diseases, held virtually this year. Dr. Kelly, a pediatrician at the Children’s Hospital in Oxford and a member of the Oxford Vaccines Group, leads one of the studies in the project looking at infant vaccination.

Dr. Kelly began his presentation by showing a figure depicting where vaccine-induced immunity fits into the larger suite of clinical studies. These studies involve mouse models, human challenge models, and infection patients. A key theme is the use of a core group of immunoassays across all studies, with the hope that they will allow effective cross comparisons.

Dr. Kelly stated, “If we find a correlate of protection in the challenge model, we can then interpret the vaccine studies in the light of that because we are using standardized constant immunoassays.”

The assays being used depend in part on the specific study and the volume of blood available. They will generally include Bordetella-specific antibody and functional antibody assays, as well as interesting studies collecting mucosal samples from infants and adults to look at serological responses. Also under examination are a range of enzyme-linked immune absorbent spot, flow cytometry, and culture techniques looking at Memory B cells, T cells, and gene expression.

Complementing these assay studies, PERISCOPE includes a series of clinical investigations designed to throw light on three areas of interest, described below:

First, researchers hope to gain a better understanding regarding the effects of the original whole cell vaccine versus the current acellular variety. The former uses an inactivated version of the whole organism. Epidemiological studies, animal data, and experience in the field demonstrate that whole-cell vaccination results in a broad, long-lasting, and effective immune response.

By comparison, the acellular pertussis vaccine consists of between three and five protein components, which are purified from cultured Bordetella pertussis. While it is an effective vaccine, its effects are less durable; routine use in some countries is associated with cyclical outbreaks of increasing severity.

A second issue for researchers involved in the PERISCOPE project concerns the effects of maternal immunization. In the United Kingdom in 2012, for example, an increasing number of cases were noted 6-7 years after adoption of an acellular vaccine for routine vaccination in the 2nd-3rd trimester of pregnancy. Vaccination appears to effectively control neonatal disease, but whether this influences infant immune responses and long-term control of pertussis for a population is unknown.

Finally, the group is interested in the effects of an acellular booster across all age groups. While the effects may be short-lived, the booster is a potential strategy for controlling a population by repeated boosting of immunity. This is another area where using novel immunoassays may aid better understanding.

To find answers, the consortium has established four studies: the Gambia Pertussis study (GaPs) in Gambia and AWARE, the sister study to GaPs in the United Kingdom, addressing the acellular pertussis versus cellular pertussis question; the Pertussis Maternal Immunization Study in Finland (MIFI) addressing maternal immunization; and the Booster against Pertussis (BERT) study across three countries (U.K., the Netherlands, and Finland) looking at acellular booster across age groups.
 

Gambia pertussis study

GaPs is the largest single study in the project and is being run at the Medical Research Council–funded London School of Tropical Medicine center in Gambia. Beate Kampmann, MD, PhD, of Imperial College London, England, is the project lead. It is due to complete in 2022. GaPs seeks to enroll 600 mother/infant pairs and randomize the mothers to either an acellular pertussis booster in pregnancy or a tetanus toxoid control vaccine. Infants are subsequently randomized to an acellular or whole-cell pertussis schedule of primary immunization. The vaccine doses are being given at 2, 3, and 4 months. The primary endpoint is a serological finding being measured at 9 months of age, when the infant would usually receive yellow fever, measles, and rubella vaccination.

GaPs has a number of pathways. Within each of the four arms generated by the two randomizations, the maternal randomization and the infant randomization, there are five subgroups. They are designed to study time points in subgroups A and B after the first dose in more detail, looking at the innate immune responses using gene expression. It will enable researchers to study adaptive immune responses to T cells and B cells after the second dose of vaccine. By employing a range of subgroups, the team can explore the immune profile using the assays referred to above. Such information should provide new insights into the differences between acellular and whole-cell vaccines.
 

The AWARE study

AWARE is the sister study to GaPs and looks at the acellular/whole pertussis issue. Because many developed countries, such as the United Kingdom, have established maternal immunization programs, it is not possible to randomize mothers. Consequently, researchers have opted to recruit infants of mothers who have received an acellular vaccine in pregnancy and randomize them to either an acellular schedule of primary immunization or a whole-cell schedule.

The selected vaccine is ComVac5 from Bharat Biotech. This whole-cell vaccine differs from that used in Gambia. An early obstacle for AWARE has been seeking permission to import a non-conventional vaccine into Europe. It has delayed the anticipated end date to 2023. Participating infants will receive a two-dose schedule at 2 and 4 months of age per their randomization; then, both groups will go on to receive an acellular pertussis booster at 12 months. At all time points, the team will sample blood for cells and serum, as well as mucosal fluid from the nose. Because the mucosal surface is where the action is, this approach will likely generate new data around antibody responses.
 

The MIFI

The Pertussis Maternal Immunization Study in Finland is being run by Jussi Mertsola, of the University of Turku, Finland, and Qiushui He, of the National Public Health Institute, Turku. It is due to complete in late 2021. Where, in the United Kingdom, researchers are unable to randomize mothers because of the current guidelines, researchers in Finland do not have a maternal immunization program to consider. MIFI will randomize 80 mothers, 40 to immunization with acellular pertussis and 40 to a control group. Dr. Kelly stated that whole cell vaccines are not available for use in Finland. Participants will receive a two-dose schedule at 3 and 5 months. Blood samples will then be taken to compare the serological and cellular responses, which will help researchers understand the effects of maternal immunization. In addition, there will be sampling of mucosal fluid using a device that collects a standardized aliquot of fluid.
 

The BERT study

The final clinical element of PERISCOPE presented by Dr. Kelly was the Booster against Pertussis study. This study is near completion. It seeks to examine the use of an acellular booster across different age groups and three countries: the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Finland. The study is being coordinated by Guy Berbers, PhD, at the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment in the Netherlands.

BERT comprises four cohorts (A, B, C, D) of different ages: 7-10 years (36 participants), 11-15 years (36 participants), mid-adult (25 participants), and older age (25 participants). After receiving an acellular booster, participants will undergo intense sampling. Sampling will take place immediately after immunization at day 7 and look at adaptive effects, then again at day 28 and day 365.

Because some participants will have already received whole cell or acellular vaccination, this approach will allow researchers to look at the effects of priming (i.e., how long the B cell/T cell antibody responses last).

Involving different countries across Europe ensures wide applicability of results, but also allows researchers to compare the effects of very different immunization histories.

At the end of this ESPID session, Dimitri Diavatopoulos, PhD, assistant professor at the Radboud University Medical Centre Nijmegen, the Netherlands, commented that a future problem in studying pertussis vaccines and their potential clinical application is that most vaccination schedules now involve combination products. Obtaining a stand-alone vaccination may prove difficult, and there may be resistance if it complicates current vaccination programs.

Dr. Kelly acknowledged funding for the PERISCOPE project from GlaxoSmithKline and Pasteur Sanofi.

With increasing whooping cough numbers, developing an effective new vaccine against Bordetella pertussis is a priority. Results from the multifactorial PERISCOPE Project will help scientists and clinicians move forward.

MarianVejcik/Getty Images

Dominic Kelly, PhD, talked about vaccine-induced immunity and provided an overview of ongoing clinical trials in the PERISCOPE (Pertussis Correlates of Protection Europe) project in a key research session at the start of the annual meeting of the European Society for Paediatric Infectious Diseases, held virtually this year. Dr. Kelly, a pediatrician at the Children’s Hospital in Oxford and a member of the Oxford Vaccines Group, leads one of the studies in the project looking at infant vaccination.

Dr. Kelly began his presentation by showing a figure depicting where vaccine-induced immunity fits into the larger suite of clinical studies. These studies involve mouse models, human challenge models, and infection patients. A key theme is the use of a core group of immunoassays across all studies, with the hope that they will allow effective cross comparisons.

Dr. Kelly stated, “If we find a correlate of protection in the challenge model, we can then interpret the vaccine studies in the light of that because we are using standardized constant immunoassays.”

The assays being used depend in part on the specific study and the volume of blood available. They will generally include Bordetella-specific antibody and functional antibody assays, as well as interesting studies collecting mucosal samples from infants and adults to look at serological responses. Also under examination are a range of enzyme-linked immune absorbent spot, flow cytometry, and culture techniques looking at Memory B cells, T cells, and gene expression.

Complementing these assay studies, PERISCOPE includes a series of clinical investigations designed to throw light on three areas of interest, described below:

First, researchers hope to gain a better understanding regarding the effects of the original whole cell vaccine versus the current acellular variety. The former uses an inactivated version of the whole organism. Epidemiological studies, animal data, and experience in the field demonstrate that whole-cell vaccination results in a broad, long-lasting, and effective immune response.

By comparison, the acellular pertussis vaccine consists of between three and five protein components, which are purified from cultured Bordetella pertussis. While it is an effective vaccine, its effects are less durable; routine use in some countries is associated with cyclical outbreaks of increasing severity.

A second issue for researchers involved in the PERISCOPE project concerns the effects of maternal immunization. In the United Kingdom in 2012, for example, an increasing number of cases were noted 6-7 years after adoption of an acellular vaccine for routine vaccination in the 2nd-3rd trimester of pregnancy. Vaccination appears to effectively control neonatal disease, but whether this influences infant immune responses and long-term control of pertussis for a population is unknown.

Finally, the group is interested in the effects of an acellular booster across all age groups. While the effects may be short-lived, the booster is a potential strategy for controlling a population by repeated boosting of immunity. This is another area where using novel immunoassays may aid better understanding.

To find answers, the consortium has established four studies: the Gambia Pertussis study (GaPs) in Gambia and AWARE, the sister study to GaPs in the United Kingdom, addressing the acellular pertussis versus cellular pertussis question; the Pertussis Maternal Immunization Study in Finland (MIFI) addressing maternal immunization; and the Booster against Pertussis (BERT) study across three countries (U.K., the Netherlands, and Finland) looking at acellular booster across age groups.
 

Gambia pertussis study

GaPs is the largest single study in the project and is being run at the Medical Research Council–funded London School of Tropical Medicine center in Gambia. Beate Kampmann, MD, PhD, of Imperial College London, England, is the project lead. It is due to complete in 2022. GaPs seeks to enroll 600 mother/infant pairs and randomize the mothers to either an acellular pertussis booster in pregnancy or a tetanus toxoid control vaccine. Infants are subsequently randomized to an acellular or whole-cell pertussis schedule of primary immunization. The vaccine doses are being given at 2, 3, and 4 months. The primary endpoint is a serological finding being measured at 9 months of age, when the infant would usually receive yellow fever, measles, and rubella vaccination.

GaPs has a number of pathways. Within each of the four arms generated by the two randomizations, the maternal randomization and the infant randomization, there are five subgroups. They are designed to study time points in subgroups A and B after the first dose in more detail, looking at the innate immune responses using gene expression. It will enable researchers to study adaptive immune responses to T cells and B cells after the second dose of vaccine. By employing a range of subgroups, the team can explore the immune profile using the assays referred to above. Such information should provide new insights into the differences between acellular and whole-cell vaccines.
 

The AWARE study

AWARE is the sister study to GaPs and looks at the acellular/whole pertussis issue. Because many developed countries, such as the United Kingdom, have established maternal immunization programs, it is not possible to randomize mothers. Consequently, researchers have opted to recruit infants of mothers who have received an acellular vaccine in pregnancy and randomize them to either an acellular schedule of primary immunization or a whole-cell schedule.

The selected vaccine is ComVac5 from Bharat Biotech. This whole-cell vaccine differs from that used in Gambia. An early obstacle for AWARE has been seeking permission to import a non-conventional vaccine into Europe. It has delayed the anticipated end date to 2023. Participating infants will receive a two-dose schedule at 2 and 4 months of age per their randomization; then, both groups will go on to receive an acellular pertussis booster at 12 months. At all time points, the team will sample blood for cells and serum, as well as mucosal fluid from the nose. Because the mucosal surface is where the action is, this approach will likely generate new data around antibody responses.
 

The MIFI

The Pertussis Maternal Immunization Study in Finland is being run by Jussi Mertsola, of the University of Turku, Finland, and Qiushui He, of the National Public Health Institute, Turku. It is due to complete in late 2021. Where, in the United Kingdom, researchers are unable to randomize mothers because of the current guidelines, researchers in Finland do not have a maternal immunization program to consider. MIFI will randomize 80 mothers, 40 to immunization with acellular pertussis and 40 to a control group. Dr. Kelly stated that whole cell vaccines are not available for use in Finland. Participants will receive a two-dose schedule at 3 and 5 months. Blood samples will then be taken to compare the serological and cellular responses, which will help researchers understand the effects of maternal immunization. In addition, there will be sampling of mucosal fluid using a device that collects a standardized aliquot of fluid.
 

The BERT study

The final clinical element of PERISCOPE presented by Dr. Kelly was the Booster against Pertussis study. This study is near completion. It seeks to examine the use of an acellular booster across different age groups and three countries: the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Finland. The study is being coordinated by Guy Berbers, PhD, at the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment in the Netherlands.

BERT comprises four cohorts (A, B, C, D) of different ages: 7-10 years (36 participants), 11-15 years (36 participants), mid-adult (25 participants), and older age (25 participants). After receiving an acellular booster, participants will undergo intense sampling. Sampling will take place immediately after immunization at day 7 and look at adaptive effects, then again at day 28 and day 365.

Because some participants will have already received whole cell or acellular vaccination, this approach will allow researchers to look at the effects of priming (i.e., how long the B cell/T cell antibody responses last).

Involving different countries across Europe ensures wide applicability of results, but also allows researchers to compare the effects of very different immunization histories.

At the end of this ESPID session, Dimitri Diavatopoulos, PhD, assistant professor at the Radboud University Medical Centre Nijmegen, the Netherlands, commented that a future problem in studying pertussis vaccines and their potential clinical application is that most vaccination schedules now involve combination products. Obtaining a stand-alone vaccination may prove difficult, and there may be resistance if it complicates current vaccination programs.

Dr. Kelly acknowledged funding for the PERISCOPE project from GlaxoSmithKline and Pasteur Sanofi.

Labor induction at 39 weeks instead of 41 weeks may have a positive impact on neonatal outcomes, Aaron B. Caughey, MD, PhD, said at the 2020 virtual meeting of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

For much of the 20th century, term gestation has been defined as 37 weeks and beyond, said Dr. Caughey, of Oregon Health & Science University, Portland. He noted several studies showing a U-shaped distribution in neonatal outcomes during the period from 37 weeks to 41 weeks for some outcomes, including Apgar scores. However, respiratory outcomes in a study from 2008 showed an increase, with meconium stained amniotic fluid increasing from 2.27% at 37 weeks to 10.33% at 41 weeks, and meconium aspiration increasing from 0.07% at 37 weeks to 0.27% at 41 weeks.

Late-term induction may carry more risk

The study “that really got everyone’s attention” in terms of neonatal outcomes was published in 2009 in the New England Journal of Medicine. The cohort study included 24,077 elective cesarean deliveries between 37 and 42 weeks and reviewed a range of neonatal outcomes based on gestational age.

The rate of any adverse outcome decreased from 37 weeks to 39 weeks, “but then started going back up again,” Dr. Caughey said. He reviewed data from another study that factored in stillbirth and the risk of expectant management based on gestational age. A composite risk of perinatal death with expectant management was 15.4 deaths per 10,000 cases at 37 weeks and 39 weeks, but increased to 19.9 at 42 weeks.

“The morbidity appears to have a U-shaped distribution and the mortality seems to favor delivery at 39 weeks,” he said.

When it comes to induction of labor, medically indicated vs. nonmedically indicated does matter, Dr. Caughey said. Factors not considered a medical indication include impending macrosomia, increased risk for developing preeclampsia or intrauterine growth retardation, and a favorable cervix, he noted.

“For indicated induction of labor, the risks and benefits of induction of labor vs. expectant management have been considered and weighed in by the field of experts that care for pregnant women,” he said. With nonmedically indicated induction, experts “either decided that risks and benefits don’t favor induction of labor, or we haven’t come down hard on what the protocol might be.

“It is important to consider the risks and benefits,” said Dr. Caughey. The factors you want to include are neonatal outcomes, maternal preferences, and doctor preferences. However, “we want to be thoughtful about this intervention,” because of the association of higher costs and increased risk of cesarean with induction of labor.

As for timing of induction of labor, certain conditions favoring early-term induction include preeclampsia and gestational hypertension, chronic hypertension, diabetes, intrauterine growth restriction, nonreassuring fetal testing, cholestasis, placenta previa or accreta, and twins.
 

Data support value of 39 weeks

As for late-term induction of labor, “at 41 weeks it is pretty clear that neonatal outcomes would be improved by delivery,” he said. Historically, clinicians have raised concerns about the increased risk of cesarean delivery following induction of labor, but this risk has not been borne out in recent studies. Dr. Caughey said. However, in the findings from the ARRIVE trial, a large study of 6,106 women who were randomized to induction or labor or expectant management at 39 weeks, “they found a reduction in their risk of cesarean delivery compared to expectant management (18.6% vs. 22.2%). Rates of preeclampsia also were lower among induced women, while rate of chorioamnionitis, postpartum hemorrhage, and intensive care were similar between the groups. The researchers did not find significant differences in perinatal outcomes.

Dr. Caughey and colleagues conducted a systematic review of cesarean risk and induction of labor, and found a risk ratio of 0.83, similar to the ARRIVE trial. “The data suggest a consistently reduced risk for cesarean delivery with the induction of labor.”

However, “I would caution us to be thoughtful about research protocols vs. actual practice,” he said. “You must think about the environment.” The latent phase of labor can continue for a long time after induction, and patience is called for, he emphasized.

Dr. Caughey said that despite the ARRIVE trial and other studies, 39 weeks should not necessarily be the new standard for induction of labor. “The proportion of women impacted is dramatically different, if you would be inducing every woman at 39 weeks, that would be 60% to 70%,” which could have a great impact on resources.

Based on current research, early-term induction of labor at 37 weeks “is a bad idea without indication,” said Dr. Caughey. Induction at 41 weeks (sometimes considered post term) is the current ACOG recommendation and is associated with improved outcomes.

Induction of labor at full term (39-40 weeks) depends in part on the environment, and is not a violation of standard of care, he said. “Evidence is evolving, and individual hospitals are trying to figure this out.”

Cesarean data are convincing, at least in some settings, he said. However, “we need more global trials and different medical settings” to determine the optimal time for induction of labor.
 

Consider maternal preferences and characteristics

During a question-and-answer session, Dr. Caughey was asked whether all women should be offered induction of labor at 39 weeks.

“I think it is OK if your entire health system has agreed to offering, to have that shared medical decision making, but you need to have careful conversation to make sure you have the resources,” he noted. Also, he said he believed clinicians should respond to women as they request labor induction at 39 weeks.

In response to a question about induction of labor in obese women, he noted that women with a body mass index greater than 35 kg/m² are not equally successful with induction of labor. “We know they have a higher risk of cesarean delivery,” however, “it has been demonstrated that they have the same potential benefits of reduced risk of cesarean.”

As for factoring in the Bishop score to determine a favorable or unfavorable cervix, Dr. Caughey noted that women with a favorable cervix are more likely to go into labor on their own, while those with an unfavorable cervix may benefit from cervical ripening.

Dr. Caughey had no financial conflicts relevant to this talk, but disclosed serving as a medical adviser to Celmatix and Mindchild, as well as an endowment to his academic department from Bob’s Red Mill, an Oregon-based whole grain foods manufacturer.

Labor induction at 39 weeks instead of 41 weeks may have a positive impact on neonatal outcomes, Aaron B. Caughey, MD, PhD, said at the 2020 virtual meeting of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

For much of the 20th century, term gestation has been defined as 37 weeks and beyond, said Dr. Caughey, of Oregon Health & Science University, Portland. He noted several studies showing a U-shaped distribution in neonatal outcomes during the period from 37 weeks to 41 weeks for some outcomes, including Apgar scores. However, respiratory outcomes in a study from 2008 showed an increase, with meconium stained amniotic fluid increasing from 2.27% at 37 weeks to 10.33% at 41 weeks, and meconium aspiration increasing from 0.07% at 37 weeks to 0.27% at 41 weeks.

Late-term induction may carry more risk

The study “that really got everyone’s attention” in terms of neonatal outcomes was published in 2009 in the New England Journal of Medicine. The cohort study included 24,077 elective cesarean deliveries between 37 and 42 weeks and reviewed a range of neonatal outcomes based on gestational age.

The rate of any adverse outcome decreased from 37 weeks to 39 weeks, “but then started going back up again,” Dr. Caughey said. He reviewed data from another study that factored in stillbirth and the risk of expectant management based on gestational age. A composite risk of perinatal death with expectant management was 15.4 deaths per 10,000 cases at 37 weeks and 39 weeks, but increased to 19.9 at 42 weeks.

“The morbidity appears to have a U-shaped distribution and the mortality seems to favor delivery at 39 weeks,” he said.

When it comes to induction of labor, medically indicated vs. nonmedically indicated does matter, Dr. Caughey said. Factors not considered a medical indication include impending macrosomia, increased risk for developing preeclampsia or intrauterine growth retardation, and a favorable cervix, he noted.

“For indicated induction of labor, the risks and benefits of induction of labor vs. expectant management have been considered and weighed in by the field of experts that care for pregnant women,” he said. With nonmedically indicated induction, experts “either decided that risks and benefits don’t favor induction of labor, or we haven’t come down hard on what the protocol might be.

“It is important to consider the risks and benefits,” said Dr. Caughey. The factors you want to include are neonatal outcomes, maternal preferences, and doctor preferences. However, “we want to be thoughtful about this intervention,” because of the association of higher costs and increased risk of cesarean with induction of labor.

As for timing of induction of labor, certain conditions favoring early-term induction include preeclampsia and gestational hypertension, chronic hypertension, diabetes, intrauterine growth restriction, nonreassuring fetal testing, cholestasis, placenta previa or accreta, and twins.
 

Data support value of 39 weeks

As for late-term induction of labor, “at 41 weeks it is pretty clear that neonatal outcomes would be improved by delivery,” he said. Historically, clinicians have raised concerns about the increased risk of cesarean delivery following induction of labor, but this risk has not been borne out in recent studies. Dr. Caughey said. However, in the findings from the ARRIVE trial, a large study of 6,106 women who were randomized to induction or labor or expectant management at 39 weeks, “they found a reduction in their risk of cesarean delivery compared to expectant management (18.6% vs. 22.2%). Rates of preeclampsia also were lower among induced women, while rate of chorioamnionitis, postpartum hemorrhage, and intensive care were similar between the groups. The researchers did not find significant differences in perinatal outcomes.

Dr. Caughey and colleagues conducted a systematic review of cesarean risk and induction of labor, and found a risk ratio of 0.83, similar to the ARRIVE trial. “The data suggest a consistently reduced risk for cesarean delivery with the induction of labor.”

However, “I would caution us to be thoughtful about research protocols vs. actual practice,” he said. “You must think about the environment.” The latent phase of labor can continue for a long time after induction, and patience is called for, he emphasized.

Dr. Caughey said that despite the ARRIVE trial and other studies, 39 weeks should not necessarily be the new standard for induction of labor. “The proportion of women impacted is dramatically different, if you would be inducing every woman at 39 weeks, that would be 60% to 70%,” which could have a great impact on resources.

Based on current research, early-term induction of labor at 37 weeks “is a bad idea without indication,” said Dr. Caughey. Induction at 41 weeks (sometimes considered post term) is the current ACOG recommendation and is associated with improved outcomes.

Induction of labor at full term (39-40 weeks) depends in part on the environment, and is not a violation of standard of care, he said. “Evidence is evolving, and individual hospitals are trying to figure this out.”

Cesarean data are convincing, at least in some settings, he said. However, “we need more global trials and different medical settings” to determine the optimal time for induction of labor.
 

Consider maternal preferences and characteristics

During a question-and-answer session, Dr. Caughey was asked whether all women should be offered induction of labor at 39 weeks.

“I think it is OK if your entire health system has agreed to offering, to have that shared medical decision making, but you need to have careful conversation to make sure you have the resources,” he noted. Also, he said he believed clinicians should respond to women as they request labor induction at 39 weeks.

In response to a question about induction of labor in obese women, he noted that women with a body mass index greater than 35 kg/m² are not equally successful with induction of labor. “We know they have a higher risk of cesarean delivery,” however, “it has been demonstrated that they have the same potential benefits of reduced risk of cesarean.”

As for factoring in the Bishop score to determine a favorable or unfavorable cervix, Dr. Caughey noted that women with a favorable cervix are more likely to go into labor on their own, while those with an unfavorable cervix may benefit from cervical ripening.

Dr. Caughey had no financial conflicts relevant to this talk, but disclosed serving as a medical adviser to Celmatix and Mindchild, as well as an endowment to his academic department from Bob’s Red Mill, an Oregon-based whole grain foods manufacturer.

Labor induction at 39 weeks instead of 41 weeks may have a positive impact on neonatal outcomes, Aaron B. Caughey, MD, PhD, said at the 2020 virtual meeting of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

For much of the 20th century, term gestation has been defined as 37 weeks and beyond, said Dr. Caughey, of Oregon Health & Science University, Portland. He noted several studies showing a U-shaped distribution in neonatal outcomes during the period from 37 weeks to 41 weeks for some outcomes, including Apgar scores. However, respiratory outcomes in a study from 2008 showed an increase, with meconium stained amniotic fluid increasing from 2.27% at 37 weeks to 10.33% at 41 weeks, and meconium aspiration increasing from 0.07% at 37 weeks to 0.27% at 41 weeks.

Late-term induction may carry more risk

The study “that really got everyone’s attention” in terms of neonatal outcomes was published in 2009 in the New England Journal of Medicine. The cohort study included 24,077 elective cesarean deliveries between 37 and 42 weeks and reviewed a range of neonatal outcomes based on gestational age.

The rate of any adverse outcome decreased from 37 weeks to 39 weeks, “but then started going back up again,” Dr. Caughey said. He reviewed data from another study that factored in stillbirth and the risk of expectant management based on gestational age. A composite risk of perinatal death with expectant management was 15.4 deaths per 10,000 cases at 37 weeks and 39 weeks, but increased to 19.9 at 42 weeks.

“The morbidity appears to have a U-shaped distribution and the mortality seems to favor delivery at 39 weeks,” he said.

When it comes to induction of labor, medically indicated vs. nonmedically indicated does matter, Dr. Caughey said. Factors not considered a medical indication include impending macrosomia, increased risk for developing preeclampsia or intrauterine growth retardation, and a favorable cervix, he noted.

“For indicated induction of labor, the risks and benefits of induction of labor vs. expectant management have been considered and weighed in by the field of experts that care for pregnant women,” he said. With nonmedically indicated induction, experts “either decided that risks and benefits don’t favor induction of labor, or we haven’t come down hard on what the protocol might be.

“It is important to consider the risks and benefits,” said Dr. Caughey. The factors you want to include are neonatal outcomes, maternal preferences, and doctor preferences. However, “we want to be thoughtful about this intervention,” because of the association of higher costs and increased risk of cesarean with induction of labor.

As for timing of induction of labor, certain conditions favoring early-term induction include preeclampsia and gestational hypertension, chronic hypertension, diabetes, intrauterine growth restriction, nonreassuring fetal testing, cholestasis, placenta previa or accreta, and twins.
 

Data support value of 39 weeks

As for late-term induction of labor, “at 41 weeks it is pretty clear that neonatal outcomes would be improved by delivery,” he said. Historically, clinicians have raised concerns about the increased risk of cesarean delivery following induction of labor, but this risk has not been borne out in recent studies. Dr. Caughey said. However, in the findings from the ARRIVE trial, a large study of 6,106 women who were randomized to induction or labor or expectant management at 39 weeks, “they found a reduction in their risk of cesarean delivery compared to expectant management (18.6% vs. 22.2%). Rates of preeclampsia also were lower among induced women, while rate of chorioamnionitis, postpartum hemorrhage, and intensive care were similar between the groups. The researchers did not find significant differences in perinatal outcomes.

Dr. Caughey and colleagues conducted a systematic review of cesarean risk and induction of labor, and found a risk ratio of 0.83, similar to the ARRIVE trial. “The data suggest a consistently reduced risk for cesarean delivery with the induction of labor.”

However, “I would caution us to be thoughtful about research protocols vs. actual practice,” he said. “You must think about the environment.” The latent phase of labor can continue for a long time after induction, and patience is called for, he emphasized.

Dr. Caughey said that despite the ARRIVE trial and other studies, 39 weeks should not necessarily be the new standard for induction of labor. “The proportion of women impacted is dramatically different, if you would be inducing every woman at 39 weeks, that would be 60% to 70%,” which could have a great impact on resources.

Based on current research, early-term induction of labor at 37 weeks “is a bad idea without indication,” said Dr. Caughey. Induction at 41 weeks (sometimes considered post term) is the current ACOG recommendation and is associated with improved outcomes.

Induction of labor at full term (39-40 weeks) depends in part on the environment, and is not a violation of standard of care, he said. “Evidence is evolving, and individual hospitals are trying to figure this out.”

Cesarean data are convincing, at least in some settings, he said. However, “we need more global trials and different medical settings” to determine the optimal time for induction of labor.
 

Consider maternal preferences and characteristics

During a question-and-answer session, Dr. Caughey was asked whether all women should be offered induction of labor at 39 weeks.

“I think it is OK if your entire health system has agreed to offering, to have that shared medical decision making, but you need to have careful conversation to make sure you have the resources,” he noted. Also, he said he believed clinicians should respond to women as they request labor induction at 39 weeks.

In response to a question about induction of labor in obese women, he noted that women with a body mass index greater than 35 kg/m² are not equally successful with induction of labor. “We know they have a higher risk of cesarean delivery,” however, “it has been demonstrated that they have the same potential benefits of reduced risk of cesarean.”

As for factoring in the Bishop score to determine a favorable or unfavorable cervix, Dr. Caughey noted that women with a favorable cervix are more likely to go into labor on their own, while those with an unfavorable cervix may benefit from cervical ripening.

Dr. Caughey had no financial conflicts relevant to this talk, but disclosed serving as a medical adviser to Celmatix and Mindchild, as well as an endowment to his academic department from Bob’s Red Mill, an Oregon-based whole grain foods manufacturer.

Cannabis is ineffective at alleviating depression in pregnant women undergoing opioid agonist therapy (OAT), new research shows.

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A study of more than 120 pregnant women undergoing treatment of opioid use disorder (OUD) showed that those who used cannabis to alleviate their depressive symptoms while undergoing OAT continued to have high depression scores at the end of opioid treatment.

In addition, depression scores improved for those who abstained from cannabis use after their first positive screen. Interestingly, cannabis use did not affect patient retention in treatment for OUD, the investigators note.

“To our knowledge, this is the first time looking at the impact of cannabis on the specific population of pregnant women with opioid use disorder, who are very vulnerable to depression,” lead author Abigail Richison, MD, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, Little Rock, said in an interview.

The findings were presented at the American Academy of Addiction Psychiatry (AAAP) 31st Annual Meeting, which was held online this year because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
 

A safer alternative?

Data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health show that perinatal cannabis use increased by 62% between 2002 and 2014. Many women try to ameliorate their depression symptoms by using cannabis in the mistaken belief that it will help their depression, the investigators noted.

In addition, many women consider cannabis safer during pregnancy than prescribed medications for improving mood, said Dr. Richison. She said that cannabis does not alleviate depression and may even worsen it.

Dr. Richison noted that at her center, which has a women’s health program that treats pregnant women with OUDs, she was seeing a lot of patients who reported using cannabis to improve their mood.

“However, it didn’t seem like it was really helping, so I started researching about cannabis and depression,” Dr. Richison said.

“I’ve always been interested in this population because they are very vulnerable to legal implications and can be accused of perinatal substance use. I think it is very important to screen for depression as well as cannabis use in this population,” she added.

To shed some light on the impact of cannabis use by pregnant patients with OUD, the investigators conducted a retrospective chart review of 121 pregnant women with OUD who attended outpatient OAT. All were prescribed buprenorphine.

At each visit, Beck Depression Inventory (BDI) scores were obtained and urine drug screens were administered. The primary outcome was BDI score. Other measures included retention, urinary drug screen results, and antidepressant use.

The women were divided into two groups. The first comprised cannabis users, defined as having more than one urine drug screen that was positive for cannabis (n = 35). The other group comprised nonusers, defined as having urine drug screens that were negative for cannabis (n = 86).

Cannabis users were a little younger (mean age, 27 years) than non–cannabis users (mean age, 29.5 years; P = .006). Most of the participants were White (80.2%). Roughly half were on Medicaid, and most of the other participants had private insurance; a small number of women had no insurance.

Results showed that cannabis users had significantly higher BDI scores than non–cannabis users (mean scores, 16 vs. 9.3; P < .001).

Cannabis use continued to be associated with elevated scores for depression when controlling for opioid misuse and antidepressant use. There were no significant differences in retention or lapse to opioid misuse between the two groups.
 

More evidence of risk

Commenting on the findings in an interview, Carla Marienfeld, MD, professor of psychiatry at the University of California, San Diego, said there is a growing body of evidence about risks from cannabis use during pregnancy, “a time where we already know the endocannabinoid system is very active in the developing fetus.”

She noted that the current study’s design makes it hard to know whether marijuana use causes worse depression.

However, “it clearly is not associated with helping to improve mood the way people who are using it believe or hope for,” said Dr. Marienfeld, who was not part of the research.

“The risk for harm in terms of worse mood for the pregnant woman or risks for harm to the developing fetus are being better understood with many new studies,” she added.

Yet as more and more states legalize medical marijuana, cannabis use during pregnancy is only going to rise, experts fear.

Cornel Stanciu, MD, of Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, Lebanon, N.H., who was asked for comment, noted that public endorsement for potential benefits of the marijuana plant is at an all-time high.

“To date, 33 states and the District of Columbia have responded by legalizing medical marijuana, with 10 states also having legalized recreational use of marijuana. The current practice is said to be ahead of science, as robust research has been hindered by strict regulations – and most epidemiological studies point toward harmful associations,” Dr. Stanciu said in an interview.

“Given the decreased perception of harm by the general public, women are certainly compelled to seek what they perceive as more natural self-management remedies,” he said.
 

A harmful habit

Dr. Stanciu cited a recent study conducted in Colorado in which researchers contacted cannabis dispensaries, identified themselves as being pregnant, and asked for guidance in managing pregnancy-related symptoms.

Almost 70% of dispensaries recommended products to treat symptoms, particularly in the vulnerable first trimester; 36% of them also provided reassurance of the safety profile. Very few encouraged a discussion with the physician.

“Consumption of cannabis during pregnancy results in cannabinoid placental crossing and accumulation in the fetal brain, as well as other organs, where it interferes with neurodevelopment and the endocannabinoid system,” he said.

In addition, retrospective studies have shown an association between prenatal cannabis ingestion and anemia in the mothers, low birth weight, greater risk for preterm and stillbirths, and increased need for neonatal ICU admissions.

“Children born to mothers who used cannabis during pregnancy have higher rates of impulsivity, delinquency, learning and memory impairment, as well as executive function deficits. There is also an increased association with proneness to psychosis during middle childhood,” Dr. Stanciu said.

When used during pregnancy, cannabis has been associated with increased anxiety in mothers, as well as increased risk for depressive disorders, incidence of suicidal ideations and behavior, and symptoms of mania and psychosis among those with bipolar and schizophrenia spectrum conditions. Cannabis has also been linked to coingestion of other substances and with alcohol use.

“So cannabis can pose harm, especially when used by those with affective disorders,” Dr. Stanciu said.

The study was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Dr. Richison, Dr. Marienfeld, and Dr. Stanciu have reported no relevant financial relationships.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com

Cannabis is ineffective at alleviating depression in pregnant women undergoing opioid agonist therapy (OAT), new research shows.

RyanKing999/iStock/Getty Images

A study of more than 120 pregnant women undergoing treatment of opioid use disorder (OUD) showed that those who used cannabis to alleviate their depressive symptoms while undergoing OAT continued to have high depression scores at the end of opioid treatment.

In addition, depression scores improved for those who abstained from cannabis use after their first positive screen. Interestingly, cannabis use did not affect patient retention in treatment for OUD, the investigators note.

“To our knowledge, this is the first time looking at the impact of cannabis on the specific population of pregnant women with opioid use disorder, who are very vulnerable to depression,” lead author Abigail Richison, MD, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, Little Rock, said in an interview.

The findings were presented at the American Academy of Addiction Psychiatry (AAAP) 31st Annual Meeting, which was held online this year because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
 

A safer alternative?

Data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health show that perinatal cannabis use increased by 62% between 2002 and 2014. Many women try to ameliorate their depression symptoms by using cannabis in the mistaken belief that it will help their depression, the investigators noted.

In addition, many women consider cannabis safer during pregnancy than prescribed medications for improving mood, said Dr. Richison. She said that cannabis does not alleviate depression and may even worsen it.

Dr. Richison noted that at her center, which has a women’s health program that treats pregnant women with OUDs, she was seeing a lot of patients who reported using cannabis to improve their mood.

“However, it didn’t seem like it was really helping, so I started researching about cannabis and depression,” Dr. Richison said.

“I’ve always been interested in this population because they are very vulnerable to legal implications and can be accused of perinatal substance use. I think it is very important to screen for depression as well as cannabis use in this population,” she added.

To shed some light on the impact of cannabis use by pregnant patients with OUD, the investigators conducted a retrospective chart review of 121 pregnant women with OUD who attended outpatient OAT. All were prescribed buprenorphine.

At each visit, Beck Depression Inventory (BDI) scores were obtained and urine drug screens were administered. The primary outcome was BDI score. Other measures included retention, urinary drug screen results, and antidepressant use.

The women were divided into two groups. The first comprised cannabis users, defined as having more than one urine drug screen that was positive for cannabis (n = 35). The other group comprised nonusers, defined as having urine drug screens that were negative for cannabis (n = 86).

Cannabis users were a little younger (mean age, 27 years) than non–cannabis users (mean age, 29.5 years; P = .006). Most of the participants were White (80.2%). Roughly half were on Medicaid, and most of the other participants had private insurance; a small number of women had no insurance.

Results showed that cannabis users had significantly higher BDI scores than non–cannabis users (mean scores, 16 vs. 9.3; P < .001).

Cannabis use continued to be associated with elevated scores for depression when controlling for opioid misuse and antidepressant use. There were no significant differences in retention or lapse to opioid misuse between the two groups.
 

More evidence of risk

Commenting on the findings in an interview, Carla Marienfeld, MD, professor of psychiatry at the University of California, San Diego, said there is a growing body of evidence about risks from cannabis use during pregnancy, “a time where we already know the endocannabinoid system is very active in the developing fetus.”

She noted that the current study’s design makes it hard to know whether marijuana use causes worse depression.

However, “it clearly is not associated with helping to improve mood the way people who are using it believe or hope for,” said Dr. Marienfeld, who was not part of the research.

“The risk for harm in terms of worse mood for the pregnant woman or risks for harm to the developing fetus are being better understood with many new studies,” she added.

Yet as more and more states legalize medical marijuana, cannabis use during pregnancy is only going to rise, experts fear.

Cornel Stanciu, MD, of Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, Lebanon, N.H., who was asked for comment, noted that public endorsement for potential benefits of the marijuana plant is at an all-time high.

“To date, 33 states and the District of Columbia have responded by legalizing medical marijuana, with 10 states also having legalized recreational use of marijuana. The current practice is said to be ahead of science, as robust research has been hindered by strict regulations – and most epidemiological studies point toward harmful associations,” Dr. Stanciu said in an interview.

“Given the decreased perception of harm by the general public, women are certainly compelled to seek what they perceive as more natural self-management remedies,” he said.
 

A harmful habit

Dr. Stanciu cited a recent study conducted in Colorado in which researchers contacted cannabis dispensaries, identified themselves as being pregnant, and asked for guidance in managing pregnancy-related symptoms.

Almost 70% of dispensaries recommended products to treat symptoms, particularly in the vulnerable first trimester; 36% of them also provided reassurance of the safety profile. Very few encouraged a discussion with the physician.

“Consumption of cannabis during pregnancy results in cannabinoid placental crossing and accumulation in the fetal brain, as well as other organs, where it interferes with neurodevelopment and the endocannabinoid system,” he said.

In addition, retrospective studies have shown an association between prenatal cannabis ingestion and anemia in the mothers, low birth weight, greater risk for preterm and stillbirths, and increased need for neonatal ICU admissions.

“Children born to mothers who used cannabis during pregnancy have higher rates of impulsivity, delinquency, learning and memory impairment, as well as executive function deficits. There is also an increased association with proneness to psychosis during middle childhood,” Dr. Stanciu said.

When used during pregnancy, cannabis has been associated with increased anxiety in mothers, as well as increased risk for depressive disorders, incidence of suicidal ideations and behavior, and symptoms of mania and psychosis among those with bipolar and schizophrenia spectrum conditions. Cannabis has also been linked to coingestion of other substances and with alcohol use.

“So cannabis can pose harm, especially when used by those with affective disorders,” Dr. Stanciu said.

The study was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Dr. Richison, Dr. Marienfeld, and Dr. Stanciu have reported no relevant financial relationships.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com

Cannabis is ineffective at alleviating depression in pregnant women undergoing opioid agonist therapy (OAT), new research shows.

RyanKing999/iStock/Getty Images

A study of more than 120 pregnant women undergoing treatment of opioid use disorder (OUD) showed that those who used cannabis to alleviate their depressive symptoms while undergoing OAT continued to have high depression scores at the end of opioid treatment.

In addition, depression scores improved for those who abstained from cannabis use after their first positive screen. Interestingly, cannabis use did not affect patient retention in treatment for OUD, the investigators note.

“To our knowledge, this is the first time looking at the impact of cannabis on the specific population of pregnant women with opioid use disorder, who are very vulnerable to depression,” lead author Abigail Richison, MD, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, Little Rock, said in an interview.

The findings were presented at the American Academy of Addiction Psychiatry (AAAP) 31st Annual Meeting, which was held online this year because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
 

A safer alternative?

Data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health show that perinatal cannabis use increased by 62% between 2002 and 2014. Many women try to ameliorate their depression symptoms by using cannabis in the mistaken belief that it will help their depression, the investigators noted.

In addition, many women consider cannabis safer during pregnancy than prescribed medications for improving mood, said Dr. Richison. She said that cannabis does not alleviate depression and may even worsen it.

Dr. Richison noted that at her center, which has a women’s health program that treats pregnant women with OUDs, she was seeing a lot of patients who reported using cannabis to improve their mood.

“However, it didn’t seem like it was really helping, so I started researching about cannabis and depression,” Dr. Richison said.

“I’ve always been interested in this population because they are very vulnerable to legal implications and can be accused of perinatal substance use. I think it is very important to screen for depression as well as cannabis use in this population,” she added.

To shed some light on the impact of cannabis use by pregnant patients with OUD, the investigators conducted a retrospective chart review of 121 pregnant women with OUD who attended outpatient OAT. All were prescribed buprenorphine.

At each visit, Beck Depression Inventory (BDI) scores were obtained and urine drug screens were administered. The primary outcome was BDI score. Other measures included retention, urinary drug screen results, and antidepressant use.

The women were divided into two groups. The first comprised cannabis users, defined as having more than one urine drug screen that was positive for cannabis (n = 35). The other group comprised nonusers, defined as having urine drug screens that were negative for cannabis (n = 86).

Cannabis users were a little younger (mean age, 27 years) than non–cannabis users (mean age, 29.5 years; P = .006). Most of the participants were White (80.2%). Roughly half were on Medicaid, and most of the other participants had private insurance; a small number of women had no insurance.

Results showed that cannabis users had significantly higher BDI scores than non–cannabis users (mean scores, 16 vs. 9.3; P < .001).

Cannabis use continued to be associated with elevated scores for depression when controlling for opioid misuse and antidepressant use. There were no significant differences in retention or lapse to opioid misuse between the two groups.
 

More evidence of risk

Commenting on the findings in an interview, Carla Marienfeld, MD, professor of psychiatry at the University of California, San Diego, said there is a growing body of evidence about risks from cannabis use during pregnancy, “a time where we already know the endocannabinoid system is very active in the developing fetus.”

She noted that the current study’s design makes it hard to know whether marijuana use causes worse depression.

However, “it clearly is not associated with helping to improve mood the way people who are using it believe or hope for,” said Dr. Marienfeld, who was not part of the research.

“The risk for harm in terms of worse mood for the pregnant woman or risks for harm to the developing fetus are being better understood with many new studies,” she added.

Yet as more and more states legalize medical marijuana, cannabis use during pregnancy is only going to rise, experts fear.

Cornel Stanciu, MD, of Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, Lebanon, N.H., who was asked for comment, noted that public endorsement for potential benefits of the marijuana plant is at an all-time high.

“To date, 33 states and the District of Columbia have responded by legalizing medical marijuana, with 10 states also having legalized recreational use of marijuana. The current practice is said to be ahead of science, as robust research has been hindered by strict regulations – and most epidemiological studies point toward harmful associations,” Dr. Stanciu said in an interview.

“Given the decreased perception of harm by the general public, women are certainly compelled to seek what they perceive as more natural self-management remedies,” he said.
 

A harmful habit

Dr. Stanciu cited a recent study conducted in Colorado in which researchers contacted cannabis dispensaries, identified themselves as being pregnant, and asked for guidance in managing pregnancy-related symptoms.

Almost 70% of dispensaries recommended products to treat symptoms, particularly in the vulnerable first trimester; 36% of them also provided reassurance of the safety profile. Very few encouraged a discussion with the physician.

“Consumption of cannabis during pregnancy results in cannabinoid placental crossing and accumulation in the fetal brain, as well as other organs, where it interferes with neurodevelopment and the endocannabinoid system,” he said.

In addition, retrospective studies have shown an association between prenatal cannabis ingestion and anemia in the mothers, low birth weight, greater risk for preterm and stillbirths, and increased need for neonatal ICU admissions.

“Children born to mothers who used cannabis during pregnancy have higher rates of impulsivity, delinquency, learning and memory impairment, as well as executive function deficits. There is also an increased association with proneness to psychosis during middle childhood,” Dr. Stanciu said.

When used during pregnancy, cannabis has been associated with increased anxiety in mothers, as well as increased risk for depressive disorders, incidence of suicidal ideations and behavior, and symptoms of mania and psychosis among those with bipolar and schizophrenia spectrum conditions. Cannabis has also been linked to coingestion of other substances and with alcohol use.

“So cannabis can pose harm, especially when used by those with affective disorders,” Dr. Stanciu said.

The study was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Dr. Richison, Dr. Marienfeld, and Dr. Stanciu have reported no relevant financial relationships.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com

Breast cancer survivors are less likely to get pregnant and have higher risks of some delivery and fetal complications, according to a meta-analysis reported at the 2020 San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium.

However, the data also showed that pregnancy does not increase the risk of cancer recurrence.

“With the availability of more effective anticancer treatments, survivorship and addressing the treatments’ potential long-term toxicities has gained substantial attention,” said study investigator Matteo Lambertini, MD, PhD, of University of Genova (Italy) – IRCCS Policlinico San Martino Hospital.

“Returning to a normal life after cancer diagnosis and treatment should be considered, in the 21st century, as a crucial ambition in cancer care,” Dr. Lambertini added. “In patients diagnosed during their reproductive years, this includes the possibility to complete their family planning. Due to the constant rise in age at first pregnancy over the past years, many women are diagnosed with breast cancer before completing their reproductive plans.”

In that context, certain cancer treatments have the potential to reduce fertility. In addition, many women need prolonged hormone therapy, and conception is contraindicated while they are receiving it.

Study results

Dr. Lambertini and colleagues performed a meta-analysis using data from 39 studies that included a total of 114,573 breast cancer patients and 8,093,401 women from the general population.

Results showed that breast cancer survivors were much less likely than women in the general population to become pregnant (relative risk, 0.40; P < .001).

However, “the majority of the studies included in our meta-analysis did not capture the information on how many women tried to get pregnant,” Dr. Lambertini cautioned.

In the few studies that did, more than half of women trying to conceive did become pregnant, and most of them were able to do so naturally, without need for assisted reproductive technologies.

On the flip side, analyses also showed that pregnancies occurred in some women who did not want to conceive, underscoring the importance of comprehensive oncofertility counseling that addresses not only fertility preservation, but also contraception, Dr. Lambertini said.

Among women who became pregnant, breast cancer survivors did not have higher odds of spontaneous abortion or complications such as preeclampsia, and their infants were not significantly more likely to have congenital abnormalities.

However, the breast cancer survivor group did have higher odds of cesarean birth (odds ratio, 1.14; P = .007), low birth weight (OR, 1.50; P < .001), preterm birth (OR, 1.45; P = .006), and infants small for gestational age (OR, 1.16; P = .039).

In stratified analysis, the higher risk of having an infant with low birth weight was significant only for women who had received chemotherapy, and the higher risk of having an infant small for gestational age was significant only for women who had received chemotherapy or who had a late pregnancy (more than 2 years to 5 years after cancer diagnosis).

Among breast cancer survivors, those who became pregnant actually had lower risks of disease-free survival events (hazard ratio, 0.73; P = .016) and death (HR, 0.56; P < .001). Findings were similar in the subset of studies that adjusted for the so-called healthy mother effect.

Pregnancy did not significantly affect disease-free survival among women with hormone receptor–positive disease and appeared protective among women with hormone receptor–negative disease (HR, 0.72).

Pregnancy also appeared safe in terms of overall survival, irrespective of survivors’ BRCA status, nodal status, receipt of chemotherapy, pregnancy outcome (completed vs. abortion), and pregnancy interval.

This study was limited by the lack of patient-level data and by the fact that most of the included studies had a retrospective design, Dr. Lambertini acknowledged.

Close monitoring, early discussions are key

“Results of this meta-analysis provide reassuring, updated evidence on the feasibility and safety of conceiving in young women with prior breast cancer diagnosis. They provide crucial information for improving the oncofertility counseling of young breast cancer patients, helping them and their treating physicians in making evidence-based decisions on future family planning,” Dr. Lambertini commented.

“The higher risk of delivery and fetal complications … calls for ensuring a closer monitoring of these pregnancies,” he added. “The lack of detrimental prognostic effect of pregnancy after breast cancer following appropriate treatment and follow-up strongly voices the need for a deeper consideration of patients’ pregnancy desire as a crucial component of their survivorship care plan and wish to return to a normal life.”

“The findings provide further support regarding the safety of pregnancy following a breast cancer diagnosis,” agreed Halle Moore, MD, of Cleveland Clinic Taussig Cancer Institute in Ohio, who was not involved in this study.

“I would add that we still have a lot to learn about optimal timing of pregnancy with respect to breast cancer treatment for women with hormone-sensitive breast cancer treated with endocrine therapy,” she said.

The study’s results serve as a reminder that providers should be routinely discussing future pregnancy wishes and fertility preservation options with breast cancer patients at the time of initial diagnosis, Dr. Moore said.

“The earlier we identify an interest in future fertility, the more we can do to improve the chances for a successful pregnancy outcome,” she elaborated. “It is important to assess interest in future pregnancy as soon as possible when a young woman is diagnosed with breast cancer, as fertility preservation options are most likely to be successful when applied prior to chemotherapy or hormonal treatment for breast cancer.”

“The findings also suggest that involvement of a high-risk obstetrics team should be considered for pregnant breast cancer survivors,” Dr. Moore noted.

This research was funded by the Italian Ministry of Health and the Italian Association for Cancer Research. Dr. Lambertini and Dr. Moore disclosed no conflicts of interest. Eva Blondeaux, MD, of University of Genova – IRCCS Policlinico San Martino Hospital, who presented this research at the meeting, disclosed no conflicts as well.
 

SOURCE: Blondeaux e et al. SABCS 2020, Abstract GS3-09.

Breast cancer survivors are less likely to get pregnant and have higher risks of some delivery and fetal complications, according to a meta-analysis reported at the 2020 San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium.

However, the data also showed that pregnancy does not increase the risk of cancer recurrence.

“With the availability of more effective anticancer treatments, survivorship and addressing the treatments’ potential long-term toxicities has gained substantial attention,” said study investigator Matteo Lambertini, MD, PhD, of University of Genova (Italy) – IRCCS Policlinico San Martino Hospital.

“Returning to a normal life after cancer diagnosis and treatment should be considered, in the 21st century, as a crucial ambition in cancer care,” Dr. Lambertini added. “In patients diagnosed during their reproductive years, this includes the possibility to complete their family planning. Due to the constant rise in age at first pregnancy over the past years, many women are diagnosed with breast cancer before completing their reproductive plans.”

In that context, certain cancer treatments have the potential to reduce fertility. In addition, many women need prolonged hormone therapy, and conception is contraindicated while they are receiving it.

Study results

Dr. Lambertini and colleagues performed a meta-analysis using data from 39 studies that included a total of 114,573 breast cancer patients and 8,093,401 women from the general population.

Results showed that breast cancer survivors were much less likely than women in the general population to become pregnant (relative risk, 0.40; P < .001).

However, “the majority of the studies included in our meta-analysis did not capture the information on how many women tried to get pregnant,” Dr. Lambertini cautioned.

In the few studies that did, more than half of women trying to conceive did become pregnant, and most of them were able to do so naturally, without need for assisted reproductive technologies.

On the flip side, analyses also showed that pregnancies occurred in some women who did not want to conceive, underscoring the importance of comprehensive oncofertility counseling that addresses not only fertility preservation, but also contraception, Dr. Lambertini said.

Among women who became pregnant, breast cancer survivors did not have higher odds of spontaneous abortion or complications such as preeclampsia, and their infants were not significantly more likely to have congenital abnormalities.

However, the breast cancer survivor group did have higher odds of cesarean birth (odds ratio, 1.14; P = .007), low birth weight (OR, 1.50; P < .001), preterm birth (OR, 1.45; P = .006), and infants small for gestational age (OR, 1.16; P = .039).

In stratified analysis, the higher risk of having an infant with low birth weight was significant only for women who had received chemotherapy, and the higher risk of having an infant small for gestational age was significant only for women who had received chemotherapy or who had a late pregnancy (more than 2 years to 5 years after cancer diagnosis).

Among breast cancer survivors, those who became pregnant actually had lower risks of disease-free survival events (hazard ratio, 0.73; P = .016) and death (HR, 0.56; P < .001). Findings were similar in the subset of studies that adjusted for the so-called healthy mother effect.

Pregnancy did not significantly affect disease-free survival among women with hormone receptor–positive disease and appeared protective among women with hormone receptor–negative disease (HR, 0.72).

Pregnancy also appeared safe in terms of overall survival, irrespective of survivors’ BRCA status, nodal status, receipt of chemotherapy, pregnancy outcome (completed vs. abortion), and pregnancy interval.

This study was limited by the lack of patient-level data and by the fact that most of the included studies had a retrospective design, Dr. Lambertini acknowledged.

Close monitoring, early discussions are key

“Results of this meta-analysis provide reassuring, updated evidence on the feasibility and safety of conceiving in young women with prior breast cancer diagnosis. They provide crucial information for improving the oncofertility counseling of young breast cancer patients, helping them and their treating physicians in making evidence-based decisions on future family planning,” Dr. Lambertini commented.

“The higher risk of delivery and fetal complications … calls for ensuring a closer monitoring of these pregnancies,” he added. “The lack of detrimental prognostic effect of pregnancy after breast cancer following appropriate treatment and follow-up strongly voices the need for a deeper consideration of patients’ pregnancy desire as a crucial component of their survivorship care plan and wish to return to a normal life.”

“The findings provide further support regarding the safety of pregnancy following a breast cancer diagnosis,” agreed Halle Moore, MD, of Cleveland Clinic Taussig Cancer Institute in Ohio, who was not involved in this study.

“I would add that we still have a lot to learn about optimal timing of pregnancy with respect to breast cancer treatment for women with hormone-sensitive breast cancer treated with endocrine therapy,” she said.

The study’s results serve as a reminder that providers should be routinely discussing future pregnancy wishes and fertility preservation options with breast cancer patients at the time of initial diagnosis, Dr. Moore said.

“The earlier we identify an interest in future fertility, the more we can do to improve the chances for a successful pregnancy outcome,” she elaborated. “It is important to assess interest in future pregnancy as soon as possible when a young woman is diagnosed with breast cancer, as fertility preservation options are most likely to be successful when applied prior to chemotherapy or hormonal treatment for breast cancer.”

“The findings also suggest that involvement of a high-risk obstetrics team should be considered for pregnant breast cancer survivors,” Dr. Moore noted.

This research was funded by the Italian Ministry of Health and the Italian Association for Cancer Research. Dr. Lambertini and Dr. Moore disclosed no conflicts of interest. Eva Blondeaux, MD, of University of Genova – IRCCS Policlinico San Martino Hospital, who presented this research at the meeting, disclosed no conflicts as well.
 

SOURCE: Blondeaux e et al. SABCS 2020, Abstract GS3-09.

Breast cancer survivors are less likely to get pregnant and have higher risks of some delivery and fetal complications, according to a meta-analysis reported at the 2020 San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium.

However, the data also showed that pregnancy does not increase the risk of cancer recurrence.

“With the availability of more effective anticancer treatments, survivorship and addressing the treatments’ potential long-term toxicities has gained substantial attention,” said study investigator Matteo Lambertini, MD, PhD, of University of Genova (Italy) – IRCCS Policlinico San Martino Hospital.

“Returning to a normal life after cancer diagnosis and treatment should be considered, in the 21st century, as a crucial ambition in cancer care,” Dr. Lambertini added. “In patients diagnosed during their reproductive years, this includes the possibility to complete their family planning. Due to the constant rise in age at first pregnancy over the past years, many women are diagnosed with breast cancer before completing their reproductive plans.”

In that context, certain cancer treatments have the potential to reduce fertility. In addition, many women need prolonged hormone therapy, and conception is contraindicated while they are receiving it.

Study results

Dr. Lambertini and colleagues performed a meta-analysis using data from 39 studies that included a total of 114,573 breast cancer patients and 8,093,401 women from the general population.

Results showed that breast cancer survivors were much less likely than women in the general population to become pregnant (relative risk, 0.40; P < .001).

However, “the majority of the studies included in our meta-analysis did not capture the information on how many women tried to get pregnant,” Dr. Lambertini cautioned.

In the few studies that did, more than half of women trying to conceive did become pregnant, and most of them were able to do so naturally, without need for assisted reproductive technologies.

On the flip side, analyses also showed that pregnancies occurred in some women who did not want to conceive, underscoring the importance of comprehensive oncofertility counseling that addresses not only fertility preservation, but also contraception, Dr. Lambertini said.

Among women who became pregnant, breast cancer survivors did not have higher odds of spontaneous abortion or complications such as preeclampsia, and their infants were not significantly more likely to have congenital abnormalities.

However, the breast cancer survivor group did have higher odds of cesarean birth (odds ratio, 1.14; P = .007), low birth weight (OR, 1.50; P < .001), preterm birth (OR, 1.45; P = .006), and infants small for gestational age (OR, 1.16; P = .039).

In stratified analysis, the higher risk of having an infant with low birth weight was significant only for women who had received chemotherapy, and the higher risk of having an infant small for gestational age was significant only for women who had received chemotherapy or who had a late pregnancy (more than 2 years to 5 years after cancer diagnosis).

Among breast cancer survivors, those who became pregnant actually had lower risks of disease-free survival events (hazard ratio, 0.73; P = .016) and death (HR, 0.56; P < .001). Findings were similar in the subset of studies that adjusted for the so-called healthy mother effect.

Pregnancy did not significantly affect disease-free survival among women with hormone receptor–positive disease and appeared protective among women with hormone receptor–negative disease (HR, 0.72).

Pregnancy also appeared safe in terms of overall survival, irrespective of survivors’ BRCA status, nodal status, receipt of chemotherapy, pregnancy outcome (completed vs. abortion), and pregnancy interval.

This study was limited by the lack of patient-level data and by the fact that most of the included studies had a retrospective design, Dr. Lambertini acknowledged.

Close monitoring, early discussions are key

“Results of this meta-analysis provide reassuring, updated evidence on the feasibility and safety of conceiving in young women with prior breast cancer diagnosis. They provide crucial information for improving the oncofertility counseling of young breast cancer patients, helping them and their treating physicians in making evidence-based decisions on future family planning,” Dr. Lambertini commented.

“The higher risk of delivery and fetal complications … calls for ensuring a closer monitoring of these pregnancies,” he added. “The lack of detrimental prognostic effect of pregnancy after breast cancer following appropriate treatment and follow-up strongly voices the need for a deeper consideration of patients’ pregnancy desire as a crucial component of their survivorship care plan and wish to return to a normal life.”

“The findings provide further support regarding the safety of pregnancy following a breast cancer diagnosis,” agreed Halle Moore, MD, of Cleveland Clinic Taussig Cancer Institute in Ohio, who was not involved in this study.

“I would add that we still have a lot to learn about optimal timing of pregnancy with respect to breast cancer treatment for women with hormone-sensitive breast cancer treated with endocrine therapy,” she said.

The study’s results serve as a reminder that providers should be routinely discussing future pregnancy wishes and fertility preservation options with breast cancer patients at the time of initial diagnosis, Dr. Moore said.

“The earlier we identify an interest in future fertility, the more we can do to improve the chances for a successful pregnancy outcome,” she elaborated. “It is important to assess interest in future pregnancy as soon as possible when a young woman is diagnosed with breast cancer, as fertility preservation options are most likely to be successful when applied prior to chemotherapy or hormonal treatment for breast cancer.”

“The findings also suggest that involvement of a high-risk obstetrics team should be considered for pregnant breast cancer survivors,” Dr. Moore noted.

This research was funded by the Italian Ministry of Health and the Italian Association for Cancer Research. Dr. Lambertini and Dr. Moore disclosed no conflicts of interest. Eva Blondeaux, MD, of University of Genova – IRCCS Policlinico San Martino Hospital, who presented this research at the meeting, disclosed no conflicts as well.
 

SOURCE: Blondeaux e et al. SABCS 2020, Abstract GS3-09.

The U.S. Surgeon General and Department of Health & Human Services are calling on health care professionals, hospitals, employers, insurers, women, and the nation to work together to reduce maternal morbidity and mortality – and the disparities that make the risks higher for women of color.

The maternal mortality rate in the United States is the highest among developed countries of the world and continues to rise. In 2018, for every 100,000 live births, approximately 17 women died while pregnant or within 42 days of the end of pregnancy from causes related to pregnancy or delivery – that’s a substantial increase from 7 deaths per 100,000 live births in 1987, according to the surgeon general’s new call to action.

“Our mothers had much lower rates of dying related to pregnancy, compared to women today,” Dorothy Fink, MD, HHS deputy assistant secretary for women’s health, said at a briefing held Dec. 3 to mark the call to action.

Cardiovascular conditions were the most common cause of pregnancy-related deaths between 2011 and 2015, accounting for more than one in three of the deaths. HHS’s related action plan sets a target of achieving blood pressure control in 80% of women of reproductive age with hypertension by 2025.

The plan also seeks to reduce the maternal mortality rate by 50% and decrease low-risk cesarean deliveries by 25% within 5 years.

“A woman dies every 12 hours in this country from pregnancy-related complications,” Surgeon General Jerome Adams, MD, said at the briefing. “This is not just unacceptable, it is just something that we need to understand is not inevitable,” he said, adding that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has determined that two thirds of the deaths are preventable.

Dr. Adams also noted that it was important to address maternal health now, especially with COVID-19 raging. “Without attention and action, maternal health could actually worsen because of this pandemic,” he said.

“We cannot discuss maternal health, much less improve it, unless we acknowledge women of color are at a much greater risk of harm related to childbirth,” Dr. Adams said. “Black women are two to three times more likely to die of pregnancy-related causes compared to many other racial and ethnic groups.” The disparity increases with age, according to the CDC.

Studies have shown that education does not eliminate those disparities. Black women with a college degree are twice as likely to die as White or Asian American women who did not finish high school, Dr. Adams said.

He held up a photo of a colleague, Shalone Irving, who he said was a PhD-educated epidemiologist who “died not long ago from pregnancy-related complications.”

Income is also not a factor, said Dr. Adams, noting that pop singer Beyonce had a near-death experience with preeclampsia. He also noted that Serena Williams, a top athlete, also struggled with pregnancy complications.
 

Recommendations not all funded

The HHS action plan is not explicitly funded, although Dr. Fink and Dr. Adams said that President Donald J. Trump’s fiscal 2021 budget includes some specific requests for improving maternal health. It will be up to Congress to grant the requests.

The budget seeks $80 million for the Health Resources and Services Administration to improve access to and quality of care. It also includes money to expand Medicaid coverage for 1 year after birth for women with substance use disorders. The American Medical Association in 2019 adopted a policy urging Medicaid coverage to be expanded to include all women for a year after childbirth. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has also encouraged this extension.

“We are encouraged that the HHS action plan includes support for policies to close coverage and care gaps for all postpartum women after pregnancy-related Medicaid coverage expires,” Maureen G. Phipps, MD, MPH, CEO of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said in an interview.

The HHS could act immediately by approving Medicaid waivers to extend such coverage, Dr. Phipps said.

The budget also requests $24 million to expand maternal mortality review programs to every state, said Dr. Fink. Currently, 43 states and the District of Columbia, have such committees, which are charged with reviewing deaths of women within a year of pregnancy or birth.

The HHS will also join with the March of Dimes to address the disparities in Black women by implementing evidence-based best practices to improve quality in hospital settings.

It is not the first time the Trump administration has taken aim at reducing maternal morbidity and mortality. In 2018, the president signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act, which authorized the CDC to award $50 million over 5 years so that every state could form maternal mortality review committees.

A version of this article originally appeared on Medscape.com.

The U.S. Surgeon General and Department of Health & Human Services are calling on health care professionals, hospitals, employers, insurers, women, and the nation to work together to reduce maternal morbidity and mortality – and the disparities that make the risks higher for women of color.

The maternal mortality rate in the United States is the highest among developed countries of the world and continues to rise. In 2018, for every 100,000 live births, approximately 17 women died while pregnant or within 42 days of the end of pregnancy from causes related to pregnancy or delivery – that’s a substantial increase from 7 deaths per 100,000 live births in 1987, according to the surgeon general’s new call to action.

“Our mothers had much lower rates of dying related to pregnancy, compared to women today,” Dorothy Fink, MD, HHS deputy assistant secretary for women’s health, said at a briefing held Dec. 3 to mark the call to action.

Cardiovascular conditions were the most common cause of pregnancy-related deaths between 2011 and 2015, accounting for more than one in three of the deaths. HHS’s related action plan sets a target of achieving blood pressure control in 80% of women of reproductive age with hypertension by 2025.

The plan also seeks to reduce the maternal mortality rate by 50% and decrease low-risk cesarean deliveries by 25% within 5 years.

“A woman dies every 12 hours in this country from pregnancy-related complications,” Surgeon General Jerome Adams, MD, said at the briefing. “This is not just unacceptable, it is just something that we need to understand is not inevitable,” he said, adding that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has determined that two thirds of the deaths are preventable.

Dr. Adams also noted that it was important to address maternal health now, especially with COVID-19 raging. “Without attention and action, maternal health could actually worsen because of this pandemic,” he said.

“We cannot discuss maternal health, much less improve it, unless we acknowledge women of color are at a much greater risk of harm related to childbirth,” Dr. Adams said. “Black women are two to three times more likely to die of pregnancy-related causes compared to many other racial and ethnic groups.” The disparity increases with age, according to the CDC.

Studies have shown that education does not eliminate those disparities. Black women with a college degree are twice as likely to die as White or Asian American women who did not finish high school, Dr. Adams said.

He held up a photo of a colleague, Shalone Irving, who he said was a PhD-educated epidemiologist who “died not long ago from pregnancy-related complications.”

Income is also not a factor, said Dr. Adams, noting that pop singer Beyonce had a near-death experience with preeclampsia. He also noted that Serena Williams, a top athlete, also struggled with pregnancy complications.
 

Recommendations not all funded

The HHS action plan is not explicitly funded, although Dr. Fink and Dr. Adams said that President Donald J. Trump’s fiscal 2021 budget includes some specific requests for improving maternal health. It will be up to Congress to grant the requests.

The budget seeks $80 million for the Health Resources and Services Administration to improve access to and quality of care. It also includes money to expand Medicaid coverage for 1 year after birth for women with substance use disorders. The American Medical Association in 2019 adopted a policy urging Medicaid coverage to be expanded to include all women for a year after childbirth. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has also encouraged this extension.

“We are encouraged that the HHS action plan includes support for policies to close coverage and care gaps for all postpartum women after pregnancy-related Medicaid coverage expires,” Maureen G. Phipps, MD, MPH, CEO of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said in an interview.

The HHS could act immediately by approving Medicaid waivers to extend such coverage, Dr. Phipps said.

The budget also requests $24 million to expand maternal mortality review programs to every state, said Dr. Fink. Currently, 43 states and the District of Columbia, have such committees, which are charged with reviewing deaths of women within a year of pregnancy or birth.

The HHS will also join with the March of Dimes to address the disparities in Black women by implementing evidence-based best practices to improve quality in hospital settings.

It is not the first time the Trump administration has taken aim at reducing maternal morbidity and mortality. In 2018, the president signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act, which authorized the CDC to award $50 million over 5 years so that every state could form maternal mortality review committees.

A version of this article originally appeared on Medscape.com.

The U.S. Surgeon General and Department of Health & Human Services are calling on health care professionals, hospitals, employers, insurers, women, and the nation to work together to reduce maternal morbidity and mortality – and the disparities that make the risks higher for women of color.

The maternal mortality rate in the United States is the highest among developed countries of the world and continues to rise. In 2018, for every 100,000 live births, approximately 17 women died while pregnant or within 42 days of the end of pregnancy from causes related to pregnancy or delivery – that’s a substantial increase from 7 deaths per 100,000 live births in 1987, according to the surgeon general’s new call to action.

“Our mothers had much lower rates of dying related to pregnancy, compared to women today,” Dorothy Fink, MD, HHS deputy assistant secretary for women’s health, said at a briefing held Dec. 3 to mark the call to action.

Cardiovascular conditions were the most common cause of pregnancy-related deaths between 2011 and 2015, accounting for more than one in three of the deaths. HHS’s related action plan sets a target of achieving blood pressure control in 80% of women of reproductive age with hypertension by 2025.

The plan also seeks to reduce the maternal mortality rate by 50% and decrease low-risk cesarean deliveries by 25% within 5 years.

“A woman dies every 12 hours in this country from pregnancy-related complications,” Surgeon General Jerome Adams, MD, said at the briefing. “This is not just unacceptable, it is just something that we need to understand is not inevitable,” he said, adding that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has determined that two thirds of the deaths are preventable.

Dr. Adams also noted that it was important to address maternal health now, especially with COVID-19 raging. “Without attention and action, maternal health could actually worsen because of this pandemic,” he said.

“We cannot discuss maternal health, much less improve it, unless we acknowledge women of color are at a much greater risk of harm related to childbirth,” Dr. Adams said. “Black women are two to three times more likely to die of pregnancy-related causes compared to many other racial and ethnic groups.” The disparity increases with age, according to the CDC.

Studies have shown that education does not eliminate those disparities. Black women with a college degree are twice as likely to die as White or Asian American women who did not finish high school, Dr. Adams said.

He held up a photo of a colleague, Shalone Irving, who he said was a PhD-educated epidemiologist who “died not long ago from pregnancy-related complications.”

Income is also not a factor, said Dr. Adams, noting that pop singer Beyonce had a near-death experience with preeclampsia. He also noted that Serena Williams, a top athlete, also struggled with pregnancy complications.
 

Recommendations not all funded

The HHS action plan is not explicitly funded, although Dr. Fink and Dr. Adams said that President Donald J. Trump’s fiscal 2021 budget includes some specific requests for improving maternal health. It will be up to Congress to grant the requests.

The budget seeks $80 million for the Health Resources and Services Administration to improve access to and quality of care. It also includes money to expand Medicaid coverage for 1 year after birth for women with substance use disorders. The American Medical Association in 2019 adopted a policy urging Medicaid coverage to be expanded to include all women for a year after childbirth. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has also encouraged this extension.

“We are encouraged that the HHS action plan includes support for policies to close coverage and care gaps for all postpartum women after pregnancy-related Medicaid coverage expires,” Maureen G. Phipps, MD, MPH, CEO of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said in an interview.

The HHS could act immediately by approving Medicaid waivers to extend such coverage, Dr. Phipps said.

The budget also requests $24 million to expand maternal mortality review programs to every state, said Dr. Fink. Currently, 43 states and the District of Columbia, have such committees, which are charged with reviewing deaths of women within a year of pregnancy or birth.

The HHS will also join with the March of Dimes to address the disparities in Black women by implementing evidence-based best practices to improve quality in hospital settings.

It is not the first time the Trump administration has taken aim at reducing maternal morbidity and mortality. In 2018, the president signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act, which authorized the CDC to award $50 million over 5 years so that every state could form maternal mortality review committees.

A version of this article originally appeared on Medscape.com.

OBG Management takes the issues of systemic and structural racism incredibly seriously--not just by talking about it but by trying to highlight areas in medicine, particularly in obstetrics and gynecology, that are barriers to progress. In this new series for OBG Management, Board Member Barbara Levy, MD, faces the issues head-on, beginning with this peer-to-peer interview with Pierre Johnson, MD, ObGyn in Chicago, Illinois. Watch for future installments in upcoming issues of OBG Management.

Finding inspiration among life’s challenges

Barbara Levy, MD: I am fortunate to have met Pierre serendipitously at a training that we were both attending and was impressed by Dr. Johnson’s life story, his passion and commitment, and his dedication—not only to his personal career but also to raising up other young men of color by trying to break down barriers that face them. His life story highlights those areas of systemic and structural problems that all of us together need to address if we are going to make any progress.

Pierre Johnson, MD: Thank you, Barbara. A little about myself: I am a board-certified ObGyn, and I specialize in minimally invasive surgery. I was born on the South side of Chicago, experiencing gang violence, drugs, and substandard, underserved schools. Long story short, I had a very rough upbringing. I had a single mom and several different issues at home. I am the oldest of 5 siblings, and life was tough.

But I knew that I wanted to do something different with my life. I saw that there was a need in my community as far as health care was concerned, in particular women’s health and childbirth. I knew early on that I wanted to be an ObGyn, and the reason had a lot to do with The Cosby Show. It was the only example of a positive, successful Black man that I saw. No one graduated from college in my family. There weren’t any models of young Black excellence around me. Saying that I wanted to be a doctor planted a seed. I was 9 when my mom became pregnant with my first sibling, and it was fascinating to me. The physiology of pregnancy, and eventually childbirth, was extremely fascinating to me; it set me off on my journey to be an ObGyn.

As I got older, things didn’t get any easier. I went to high school in one of the toughest areas on the South side of Chicago. Gang violence, and violence in and of itself, were all around me, but I was able to stay focused. I went on to Xavier University in Louisiana.

Dr. Levy: There are some important things that I learned from your book and from talking to you at our first meeting. Your mom’s ObGyn, when she was pregnant with your next youngest sibling, was also a Black ObGyn. He took some time to take you under wing?

Dr. Johnson: He did. My mom’s ObGyn was a Black man. Other than The Cosby Show, that’s the only time I saw something like that. When I spoke to him, he really took the time to answer my questions and show me that he was like me; he wasn’t just a far-off mythical person, or something that I could not obtain.

Continue to: Seeing is believing when it comes to success...

Seeing is believing when it comes to success

Dr. Levy: Do you think it was important to have a role model who wasn’t a sports star?

Dr. Johnson: If you can’t see it, you can’t achieve it. He took his time to really talk to me, and it’s the little things for kids that go a long way in their life experience. I still have a relationship with him to this day. How he handled me as a kid made me realize that this is something that I could do. That was extremely important for me.

Dr. Levy: One of the structural things I think we need to point out is that the ability to see yourself as someone successful is critical. When we see 1,000 images a day and they are all White, and they are all so different from where we are that it gets incorporated into our sense of being. I think that’s really difficult for those of us of with privilege to understand what that privilege is.

Dr. Johnson: Absolutely, and I’ll even go further. In residency, 2 White females were my classmates, and both of their parents were doctors. They had grandparents who were doctors. My mom was addicted to drugs; my father was not around. They had been talking medicine since they were 5. You have to make things equitable, but in medicine it’s really not equitable. In medicine, what we don’t realize is that there is an importance for all aspects of someone’s upbringing and environment, and it’s not just what they can regurgitate on a standardized test. If a patient can’t relate to you and tell you what is wrong with them, how can you adequately treat them?

Dr. Levy: Even if they are trying to tell me, but I can’t hear it because I don’t have the language and I don’t have the background. There are really good data to show, in fact, that Black male physicians do a better job at engaging Black men to manage their hypertension.¹ When we look at the inequities in birth outcomes for women of color, indigenous women and Black women, there’s evidence that providers who come from a similar background do a better job.

Dr. Johnson: There was the study of Black infants that just came out about them dying at a 3-time higher rate in non-Black physicians’ hands.² These things need to be recognized. They need to be discussed, and they need to be identified as issues and then, realistically, we need to start talking about solutions, not get offended by what actual statistics are saying.

Foundational inequities in education

Dr. Levy: To address some of the barriers that you faced: I know that you went to a high school that was not geared toward pushing students into professional careers. Your colleagues, however, had educations that prepared them for the standardized tests and other things that they would face academically.

Dr. Johnson: People think I am kidding when I say it, but when I went into college, I didn’t know what a periodic table was. I saw it, but I had no idea what these things meant. I didn’t have any sciences or any AP classes in high school. I did well, but grades are smoke and mirrors. The true test of medicine comes with testing. From the MCATs to the boards, every step of the way there is a standardized test.

Knowledge is something that you can obtain, but test taking is a cultivated skill that happens from a very early age. Trying to teach an adult or someone in their late teens a skill that they should have learned as a kid is difficult. For me, I did not have that, so I had to program myself. I had to learn how to fundamentally take tests as an adult, where most people understand how to do that going into college and professional school.

Dr. Levy: I was impressed with your resilience. I think all of us as human beings, if we fail a test, we take it personally and think it’s about our lack of knowledge. One of the insights that you came to was that failure on those things was not that you didn’t study hard enough. In fact, you probably studied 4 times harder than most other people. You had the knowledge. Being able to get that knowledge into a standardized structured test score was the huge challenge for you.

Dr. Johnson: That’s it. I can remember taking the MCAT, and if you looked at the step 1 book, I could regurgitate to you everything on that page. However, it’s not a test about do you know it or not. It’s an understanding of the English language and how to break things down to make things fit into particular scenarios.

Continue to: A college experience focused on growth and exposure...

Dr. Levy: I was impressed by the distinction between your experience at Xavier University where there was a lot of support and guidance and help in your premed program, and what happened to you when you hit medical school.

Dr. Johnson: Xavier University in Louisiana is the number 1 institution in the country for getting minorities into professional school. They understand that they have kids that are brilliant but underprepared, and just have not had the background to actually tackle some of these tough curriculums. I always had good grades in school. But by not being challenged, I didn’t know what I didn’t really know. So now that I was seeing biology, chemistry for the first time, and trying to tackle it; there’s a failure point. I didn’t know how to take tests, and I didn’t know how to study properly. The harder I tried, the worse things got for me.

Xavier has seen that story a multitude of times. If I went to a bigger or predominantly White university, a counselor would have told me, “Well, medicine’s maybe not for you. You can’t handle a premed curriculum.” Instead, I said, “Listen, I’m studying. I’m doing all of these things, and I’m not hacking it.” And they broke it down: “Let’s get you into study groups with kids that have had these type of AP classes before. We’ll have you watch how they study,” and everything started to click. That facilitation of how to adjust to this curriculum was a godsend. It’s the only reason I’m here. I am a prime example of being brilliant enough to be able to do it, but needing the infrastructure and a system set up.

Dr. Levy: There’s a great book by Carol Dweck called Mindset that talks about education of young kids and putting them into silos so early in life; the brilliant kids go into the AP courses and the rest are labeled as inadequate. It’s assumed in a fixed mindset based on their heredity and IQ, and not based on the fact that they have not been exposed to the right things.

Xavier was growing you into the man who could, in fact, do all of those things. I think that is one of the systemic and structural issues that we have—that fixed mindset that frames a kid who is not succeeding as therefore unable to succeed, as opposed to framing that child as not having the correct tools.

New tribulations of medical school

Dr. Johnson: Absolutely. I think what Xavier did for me is to at least let me understand what I needed to do, how to comprehend and retain information, which I never had been exposed to before. Those years were very important to establishing a foundation. When going to medical school, it was like, “There’s no more excuses. What could be the problem now?” Well, now let’s talk about taking tests—a whole different skill. Xavier focused on getting me to understand how to structure my thought process and knowledge base. In medical school I had to apply those skills (because if you can’t apply them, there’s no fit).

My second through fourth year of medical school, I was the only African-American kid in my class. I was spending 20-hour days sometimes just studying, trying to overcompensate by knowing as much as I possibly could and thinking that would propel me from the test-taking standpoint. Even though I didn’t have a lot of classmates in medical school that looked like me, I did have mentors that looked similarly, who really saw potential in me. Dr. Frederick Horvath, a nephrologist in Peoria said, “What are you doing? I want you to get out of these books, and let’s go out to lunch.”

He ended up buying me some instrumental books, really talked to me, listening to my background and understanding how driven I was as a person. He took me under his wing for the rest of medical school and said, “This is how you navigate through these spaces. Yes, you need to have a fund of knowledge to be able to take these tests, but you need to start understanding how to apply it to these questions.” I’m forever grateful to Dr. Horvath for doing that because it was a point in time where I was lost and struggling.

Continue to: Hitting a stride but facing racism head-on...

Dr. Levy: You talk about the systemic and pervasive racism that was on the wards when you hit them in fourth year. If you don’t mind sharing just a little bit of that, it would help people reading this to have a better understanding of the kinds of barriers that are out there.

Dr. Johnson: Even when I talk about it today, it bothers me.

I went to medical school in Peoria, Illinois, not far from the home of the Ku Klux Klan. At that time, once you got out of Chicago it was a very brutal place, with systemic racism throughout. I was a young Black kid going through a process that not many young Black kids from the South side of Chicago go through, and you had people who had never seen anyone like me. When I was going through my clinical rotations, I knew what I was up against. I was dressed “to the T” every day, arriving early, leaving late, trying to answer questions. I would look at the evaluations, and they would be disparaging. I would look at my counterparts, how their evaluations were, and how people would respond to them, and it would be completely different.

Surgery was the part of ObGyn that I really grew to love more than anything, even more than obstetrics. When general surgery came, I wanted to take it very seriously and learn as much as I possibly could. From the beginning, I knew there was a problem because the chief resident, an older White man, wouldn’t look me in the eye or talk to me. He would make disparaging remarks. The thing that stuck out in my mind the most was when I was in the operating room transporting patients, just like a medical student did, and he came up behind me and said, “You know, Pierre, this is where a small mind and a strong back come into play.” For me, it took me to a place where I had to corral my emotions and thoughts because I just wanted to lash out and just tell him how racist and horrible that was for him to say that to me. I explained this to the powers that be, the director of the department, and they basically blew it off to the side.

When it came down to the end of the evaluation period, I passed with flying colors. But they gave me an incomplete because of that chief resident and his remarks on my evaluations. He had 3 pages of report about me as a person and as a student. He said that he had difficulty in expressing his opinions about me because of possible cultural biases that he may have had. He put “cultural biases” in an evaluation, and they looked at that and said that was enough for me to have to remediate my time. I was required to do an extra month in Pontiac, Illinois, which is even more rural than Peoria, because of a racist person that did not give me a fair opportunity because I was Black.

Like everything else in life, it was a learning experience. It’s why I fight so hard today. It’s why I’m so passionate about equity, not only in medicine but also in all aspects of society. It shows why we have police brutality and Black men dying in the streets. It shows how this happens because there are cultural and implicit biases that play out in every part of life, and we are not honest about it. Until we are honest about it and until we say that this is happening and there is something that needs to be done to address it, it’s going to continue to happen. That is my fight.

Exposing the unspoken power struggle

Dr. Levy: I couldn’t agree more. Attributing things like that to the individual, where you talk about a White man in power and a power structure that didn’t literally physically beat you but did beat you into submission. You talk about how to succeed in medical school, and how you had to suck it up and submit to something that was incredibly unfair. You understood, you were old enough, mature enough, to understand that if you fought back, you were going to lose. The only opportunity you had was to submit to that inequity and push forward.

Dr. Johnson: When I did try to fight, the chair of the department told me that either I accept the consequences or I would not graduate from medical school and be forced to do another year. That struck a chord with me. I think that happens a lot in our society, and it needs to be exposed.

Past experiences reflected in today’s society

Dr. Levy: Can you talk about what you faced in your ObGyn residency in terms of the systemic pushback, people not taking your orders, people questioning you. I know that I have heard that a great deal, and I experienced that myself as a woman.

Dr. Johnson: We look at the things that are happening now, everything from George Floyd’s murder to Colin Kaepernick taking a knee. These things are 10 years past when I first started residency. The year before I started residency, there was a noose hanging on the capitol lawn of Springfield, Illinois’ capital city. There’s systemic racism and hatred there. When I first started on the wards of my first year of ObGyn, again, I was the very first Black resident of my program’s history. Nobody could relate to me.

I went from a year-long general surgery internship at Washington Hospital Center in Washington, DC, to ObGyn residency. In the first 2 months, there were complaints of, “He’s not answering his pages. He’s not being prompt.” I went to my program director and said, “Listen, I have never had one complaint like this. There’s a problem here. And there’s a problem when I’m on the floor: When trying to give orders to nurses, they’re not taking them. I had to tell a couple of nurses, ‘I’m Dr. Johnson. Don’t call me by my first name, especially not in front of patients.’”

My director was just not hearing me, because the entire scenario was something they had never been exposed to. Systemic racism is real, and unless you experience it, it’s very difficult to accept that it is happening. But biases happen when you are not cognizant. People are used to things a certain way. Things play out in the media that make your mind think a certain way, and you don’t even realize it. You may not even want to be that way.

Continue to: Unconscious bias is a barrier to ensuring equity...

Dr. Levy: One very important point you just made is that we as the system need to be able to recognize those unconscious things, the language that we use, the disparaging remarks, the things that put people down, as well as the things that keep people out of promotion.

There are some interesting data about both race and gender and the language that we use when we write recommendations for people, that we do things unconsciously. The big message to all of us at the end is to open our minds to where those things can occur. For myself, professionally, I keep a list of words that I use when I write recommendations. I measure myself to ensure that I am using the same language for men and women, for Black and White. I think we need to overcome the system and the structure to create real equity—not equality but equity.

It begins with being real about the issues

Dr. Johnson: It’s a bigger problem than the existence of bias and racism. I think these are systemic issues that have been cultivated over centuries that have never been addressed. The true issue is that we deny that these are problems and refuse to talk about it because it makes us uncomfortable. To truly make things more equitable, we have to push our levels of comfort to be able to talk about things in a healthy manner, be open and transparent, and to start to understand how we are thinking about certain things. When you can see it, you can start to implement changes and start to change mentalities and thought processes.

For me, people say, “You don’t look like a doctor.” I get that all the time—because I have tattoos and earrings. I wear my hair in a mohawk. The image of what success looks like has been manifested through our media and culture, and it has imprinted on our minds as to how things are supposed to be. If someone doesn’t fit those molds, we start to shun them out, or we start to exhibit biases against those things. What I am trying to do is change that thought process of what a successful or a professional person looks like. It doesn’t have a look. It is not a White or Black thing. It’s an intellect, a mindset, a way of living. You have to treat every person as an individual and take all the biases out of it and understand where they are coming from and what they have to offer to the profession.

Dr. Levy: I personally was so impressed by you when I met you. I was impressed by the tattoos and the earrings, and my initial response to them was exactly that biased, “Oh, who is this person?” I checked that at the door, listened to you, and was really impressed at your surgical skill, your knowledge, your background. I am really grateful that you have been willing to spend the time to share that with everyone.

Dr. Johnson: Thank you for this discussion.

To watch the full interview between Drs. Levy and Johnson, visit: https://www.mdedge.com/obgyn/article/228507/facing-systemic-racism-health-care-inequities-medical-education. ●

OBG Management takes the issues of systemic and structural racism incredibly seriously--not just by talking about it but by trying to highlight areas in medicine, particularly in obstetrics and gynecology, that are barriers to progress. In this new series for OBG Management, Board Member Barbara Levy, MD, faces the issues head-on, beginning with this peer-to-peer interview with Pierre Johnson, MD, ObGyn in Chicago, Illinois. Watch for future installments in upcoming issues of OBG Management.

Finding inspiration among life’s challenges

Barbara Levy, MD: I am fortunate to have met Pierre serendipitously at a training that we were both attending and was impressed by Dr. Johnson’s life story, his passion and commitment, and his dedication—not only to his personal career but also to raising up other young men of color by trying to break down barriers that face them. His life story highlights those areas of systemic and structural problems that all of us together need to address if we are going to make any progress.

Pierre Johnson, MD: Thank you, Barbara. A little about myself: I am a board-certified ObGyn, and I specialize in minimally invasive surgery. I was born on the South side of Chicago, experiencing gang violence, drugs, and substandard, underserved schools. Long story short, I had a very rough upbringing. I had a single mom and several different issues at home. I am the oldest of 5 siblings, and life was tough.

But I knew that I wanted to do something different with my life. I saw that there was a need in my community as far as health care was concerned, in particular women’s health and childbirth. I knew early on that I wanted to be an ObGyn, and the reason had a lot to do with The Cosby Show. It was the only example of a positive, successful Black man that I saw. No one graduated from college in my family. There weren’t any models of young Black excellence around me. Saying that I wanted to be a doctor planted a seed. I was 9 when my mom became pregnant with my first sibling, and it was fascinating to me. The physiology of pregnancy, and eventually childbirth, was extremely fascinating to me; it set me off on my journey to be an ObGyn.

As I got older, things didn’t get any easier. I went to high school in one of the toughest areas on the South side of Chicago. Gang violence, and violence in and of itself, were all around me, but I was able to stay focused. I went on to Xavier University in Louisiana.

Dr. Levy: There are some important things that I learned from your book and from talking to you at our first meeting. Your mom’s ObGyn, when she was pregnant with your next youngest sibling, was also a Black ObGyn. He took some time to take you under wing?

Dr. Johnson: He did. My mom’s ObGyn was a Black man. Other than The Cosby Show, that’s the only time I saw something like that. When I spoke to him, he really took the time to answer my questions and show me that he was like me; he wasn’t just a far-off mythical person, or something that I could not obtain.

Continue to: Seeing is believing when it comes to success...

Seeing is believing when it comes to success

Dr. Levy: Do you think it was important to have a role model who wasn’t a sports star?

Dr. Johnson: If you can’t see it, you can’t achieve it. He took his time to really talk to me, and it’s the little things for kids that go a long way in their life experience. I still have a relationship with him to this day. How he handled me as a kid made me realize that this is something that I could do. That was extremely important for me.

Dr. Levy: One of the structural things I think we need to point out is that the ability to see yourself as someone successful is critical. When we see 1,000 images a day and they are all White, and they are all so different from where we are that it gets incorporated into our sense of being. I think that’s really difficult for those of us of with privilege to understand what that privilege is.

Dr. Johnson: Absolutely, and I’ll even go further. In residency, 2 White females were my classmates, and both of their parents were doctors. They had grandparents who were doctors. My mom was addicted to drugs; my father was not around. They had been talking medicine since they were 5. You have to make things equitable, but in medicine it’s really not equitable. In medicine, what we don’t realize is that there is an importance for all aspects of someone’s upbringing and environment, and it’s not just what they can regurgitate on a standardized test. If a patient can’t relate to you and tell you what is wrong with them, how can you adequately treat them?

Dr. Levy: Even if they are trying to tell me, but I can’t hear it because I don’t have the language and I don’t have the background. There are really good data to show, in fact, that Black male physicians do a better job at engaging Black men to manage their hypertension.¹ When we look at the inequities in birth outcomes for women of color, indigenous women and Black women, there’s evidence that providers who come from a similar background do a better job.

Dr. Johnson: There was the study of Black infants that just came out about them dying at a 3-time higher rate in non-Black physicians’ hands.² These things need to be recognized. They need to be discussed, and they need to be identified as issues and then, realistically, we need to start talking about solutions, not get offended by what actual statistics are saying.

Foundational inequities in education

Dr. Levy: To address some of the barriers that you faced: I know that you went to a high school that was not geared toward pushing students into professional careers. Your colleagues, however, had educations that prepared them for the standardized tests and other things that they would face academically.

Dr. Johnson: People think I am kidding when I say it, but when I went into college, I didn’t know what a periodic table was. I saw it, but I had no idea what these things meant. I didn’t have any sciences or any AP classes in high school. I did well, but grades are smoke and mirrors. The true test of medicine comes with testing. From the MCATs to the boards, every step of the way there is a standardized test.

Knowledge is something that you can obtain, but test taking is a cultivated skill that happens from a very early age. Trying to teach an adult or someone in their late teens a skill that they should have learned as a kid is difficult. For me, I did not have that, so I had to program myself. I had to learn how to fundamentally take tests as an adult, where most people understand how to do that going into college and professional school.

Dr. Levy: I was impressed with your resilience. I think all of us as human beings, if we fail a test, we take it personally and think it’s about our lack of knowledge. One of the insights that you came to was that failure on those things was not that you didn’t study hard enough. In fact, you probably studied 4 times harder than most other people. You had the knowledge. Being able to get that knowledge into a standardized structured test score was the huge challenge for you.

Dr. Johnson: That’s it. I can remember taking the MCAT, and if you looked at the step 1 book, I could regurgitate to you everything on that page. However, it’s not a test about do you know it or not. It’s an understanding of the English language and how to break things down to make things fit into particular scenarios.

Continue to: A college experience focused on growth and exposure...

Dr. Levy: I was impressed by the distinction between your experience at Xavier University where there was a lot of support and guidance and help in your premed program, and what happened to you when you hit medical school.

Dr. Johnson: Xavier University in Louisiana is the number 1 institution in the country for getting minorities into professional school. They understand that they have kids that are brilliant but underprepared, and just have not had the background to actually tackle some of these tough curriculums. I always had good grades in school. But by not being challenged, I didn’t know what I didn’t really know. So now that I was seeing biology, chemistry for the first time, and trying to tackle it; there’s a failure point. I didn’t know how to take tests, and I didn’t know how to study properly. The harder I tried, the worse things got for me.

Xavier has seen that story a multitude of times. If I went to a bigger or predominantly White university, a counselor would have told me, “Well, medicine’s maybe not for you. You can’t handle a premed curriculum.” Instead, I said, “Listen, I’m studying. I’m doing all of these things, and I’m not hacking it.” And they broke it down: “Let’s get you into study groups with kids that have had these type of AP classes before. We’ll have you watch how they study,” and everything started to click. That facilitation of how to adjust to this curriculum was a godsend. It’s the only reason I’m here. I am a prime example of being brilliant enough to be able to do it, but needing the infrastructure and a system set up.

Dr. Levy: There’s a great book by Carol Dweck called Mindset that talks about education of young kids and putting them into silos so early in life; the brilliant kids go into the AP courses and the rest are labeled as inadequate. It’s assumed in a fixed mindset based on their heredity and IQ, and not based on the fact that they have not been exposed to the right things.

Xavier was growing you into the man who could, in fact, do all of those things. I think that is one of the systemic and structural issues that we have—that fixed mindset that frames a kid who is not succeeding as therefore unable to succeed, as opposed to framing that child as not having the correct tools.

New tribulations of medical school

Dr. Johnson: Absolutely. I think what Xavier did for me is to at least let me understand what I needed to do, how to comprehend and retain information, which I never had been exposed to before. Those years were very important to establishing a foundation. When going to medical school, it was like, “There’s no more excuses. What could be the problem now?” Well, now let’s talk about taking tests—a whole different skill. Xavier focused on getting me to understand how to structure my thought process and knowledge base. In medical school I had to apply those skills (because if you can’t apply them, there’s no fit).

My second through fourth year of medical school, I was the only African-American kid in my class. I was spending 20-hour days sometimes just studying, trying to overcompensate by knowing as much as I possibly could and thinking that would propel me from the test-taking standpoint. Even though I didn’t have a lot of classmates in medical school that looked like me, I did have mentors that looked similarly, who really saw potential in me. Dr. Frederick Horvath, a nephrologist in Peoria said, “What are you doing? I want you to get out of these books, and let’s go out to lunch.”

He ended up buying me some instrumental books, really talked to me, listening to my background and understanding how driven I was as a person. He took me under his wing for the rest of medical school and said, “This is how you navigate through these spaces. Yes, you need to have a fund of knowledge to be able to take these tests, but you need to start understanding how to apply it to these questions.” I’m forever grateful to Dr. Horvath for doing that because it was a point in time where I was lost and struggling.

Continue to: Hitting a stride but facing racism head-on...

Dr. Levy: You talk about the systemic and pervasive racism that was on the wards when you hit them in fourth year. If you don’t mind sharing just a little bit of that, it would help people reading this to have a better understanding of the kinds of barriers that are out there.

Dr. Johnson: Even when I talk about it today, it bothers me.

I went to medical school in Peoria, Illinois, not far from the home of the Ku Klux Klan. At that time, once you got out of Chicago it was a very brutal place, with systemic racism throughout. I was a young Black kid going through a process that not many young Black kids from the South side of Chicago go through, and you had people who had never seen anyone like me. When I was going through my clinical rotations, I knew what I was up against. I was dressed “to the T” every day, arriving early, leaving late, trying to answer questions. I would look at the evaluations, and they would be disparaging. I would look at my counterparts, how their evaluations were, and how people would respond to them, and it would be completely different.

Surgery was the part of ObGyn that I really grew to love more than anything, even more than obstetrics. When general surgery came, I wanted to take it very seriously and learn as much as I possibly could. From the beginning, I knew there was a problem because the chief resident, an older White man, wouldn’t look me in the eye or talk to me. He would make disparaging remarks. The thing that stuck out in my mind the most was when I was in the operating room transporting patients, just like a medical student did, and he came up behind me and said, “You know, Pierre, this is where a small mind and a strong back come into play.” For me, it took me to a place where I had to corral my emotions and thoughts because I just wanted to lash out and just tell him how racist and horrible that was for him to say that to me. I explained this to the powers that be, the director of the department, and they basically blew it off to the side.

When it came down to the end of the evaluation period, I passed with flying colors. But they gave me an incomplete because of that chief resident and his remarks on my evaluations. He had 3 pages of report about me as a person and as a student. He said that he had difficulty in expressing his opinions about me because of possible cultural biases that he may have had. He put “cultural biases” in an evaluation, and they looked at that and said that was enough for me to have to remediate my time. I was required to do an extra month in Pontiac, Illinois, which is even more rural than Peoria, because of a racist person that did not give me a fair opportunity because I was Black.

Like everything else in life, it was a learning experience. It’s why I fight so hard today. It’s why I’m so passionate about equity, not only in medicine but also in all aspects of society. It shows why we have police brutality and Black men dying in the streets. It shows how this happens because there are cultural and implicit biases that play out in every part of life, and we are not honest about it. Until we are honest about it and until we say that this is happening and there is something that needs to be done to address it, it’s going to continue to happen. That is my fight.

Exposing the unspoken power struggle

Dr. Levy: I couldn’t agree more. Attributing things like that to the individual, where you talk about a White man in power and a power structure that didn’t literally physically beat you but did beat you into submission. You talk about how to succeed in medical school, and how you had to suck it up and submit to something that was incredibly unfair. You understood, you were old enough, mature enough, to understand that if you fought back, you were going to lose. The only opportunity you had was to submit to that inequity and push forward.

Dr. Johnson: When I did try to fight, the chair of the department told me that either I accept the consequences or I would not graduate from medical school and be forced to do another year. That struck a chord with me. I think that happens a lot in our society, and it needs to be exposed.

Past experiences reflected in today’s society

Dr. Levy: Can you talk about what you faced in your ObGyn residency in terms of the systemic pushback, people not taking your orders, people questioning you. I know that I have heard that a great deal, and I experienced that myself as a woman.

Dr. Johnson: We look at the things that are happening now, everything from George Floyd’s murder to Colin Kaepernick taking a knee. These things are 10 years past when I first started residency. The year before I started residency, there was a noose hanging on the capitol lawn of Springfield, Illinois’ capital city. There’s systemic racism and hatred there. When I first started on the wards of my first year of ObGyn, again, I was the very first Black resident of my program’s history. Nobody could relate to me.

I went from a year-long general surgery internship at Washington Hospital Center in Washington, DC, to ObGyn residency. In the first 2 months, there were complaints of, “He’s not answering his pages. He’s not being prompt.” I went to my program director and said, “Listen, I have never had one complaint like this. There’s a problem here. And there’s a problem when I’m on the floor: When trying to give orders to nurses, they’re not taking them. I had to tell a couple of nurses, ‘I’m Dr. Johnson. Don’t call me by my first name, especially not in front of patients.’”

My director was just not hearing me, because the entire scenario was something they had never been exposed to. Systemic racism is real, and unless you experience it, it’s very difficult to accept that it is happening. But biases happen when you are not cognizant. People are used to things a certain way. Things play out in the media that make your mind think a certain way, and you don’t even realize it. You may not even want to be that way.

Continue to: Unconscious bias is a barrier to ensuring equity...

Dr. Levy: One very important point you just made is that we as the system need to be able to recognize those unconscious things, the language that we use, the disparaging remarks, the things that put people down, as well as the things that keep people out of promotion.

There are some interesting data about both race and gender and the language that we use when we write recommendations for people, that we do things unconsciously. The big message to all of us at the end is to open our minds to where those things can occur. For myself, professionally, I keep a list of words that I use when I write recommendations. I measure myself to ensure that I am using the same language for men and women, for Black and White. I think we need to overcome the system and the structure to create real equity—not equality but equity.

It begins with being real about the issues

Dr. Johnson: It’s a bigger problem than the existence of bias and racism. I think these are systemic issues that have been cultivated over centuries that have never been addressed. The true issue is that we deny that these are problems and refuse to talk about it because it makes us uncomfortable. To truly make things more equitable, we have to push our levels of comfort to be able to talk about things in a healthy manner, be open and transparent, and to start to understand how we are thinking about certain things. When you can see it, you can start to implement changes and start to change mentalities and thought processes.

For me, people say, “You don’t look like a doctor.” I get that all the time—because I have tattoos and earrings. I wear my hair in a mohawk. The image of what success looks like has been manifested through our media and culture, and it has imprinted on our minds as to how things are supposed to be. If someone doesn’t fit those molds, we start to shun them out, or we start to exhibit biases against those things. What I am trying to do is change that thought process of what a successful or a professional person looks like. It doesn’t have a look. It is not a White or Black thing. It’s an intellect, a mindset, a way of living. You have to treat every person as an individual and take all the biases out of it and understand where they are coming from and what they have to offer to the profession.

Dr. Levy: I personally was so impressed by you when I met you. I was impressed by the tattoos and the earrings, and my initial response to them was exactly that biased, “Oh, who is this person?” I checked that at the door, listened to you, and was really impressed at your surgical skill, your knowledge, your background. I am really grateful that you have been willing to spend the time to share that with everyone.

Dr. Johnson: Thank you for this discussion.

To watch the full interview between Drs. Levy and Johnson, visit: https://www.mdedge.com/obgyn/article/228507/facing-systemic-racism-health-care-inequities-medical-education. ●

OBG Management takes the issues of systemic and structural racism incredibly seriously--not just by talking about it but by trying to highlight areas in medicine, particularly in obstetrics and gynecology, that are barriers to progress. In this new series for OBG Management, Board Member Barbara Levy, MD, faces the issues head-on, beginning with this peer-to-peer interview with Pierre Johnson, MD, ObGyn in Chicago, Illinois. Watch for future installments in upcoming issues of OBG Management.

Finding inspiration among life’s challenges

Barbara Levy, MD: I am fortunate to have met Pierre serendipitously at a training that we were both attending and was impressed by Dr. Johnson’s life story, his passion and commitment, and his dedication—not only to his personal career but also to raising up other young men of color by trying to break down barriers that face them. His life story highlights those areas of systemic and structural problems that all of us together need to address if we are going to make any progress.

Pierre Johnson, MD: Thank you, Barbara. A little about myself: I am a board-certified ObGyn, and I specialize in minimally invasive surgery. I was born on the South side of Chicago, experiencing gang violence, drugs, and substandard, underserved schools. Long story short, I had a very rough upbringing. I had a single mom and several different issues at home. I am the oldest of 5 siblings, and life was tough.

But I knew that I wanted to do something different with my life. I saw that there was a need in my community as far as health care was concerned, in particular women’s health and childbirth. I knew early on that I wanted to be an ObGyn, and the reason had a lot to do with The Cosby Show. It was the only example of a positive, successful Black man that I saw. No one graduated from college in my family. There weren’t any models of young Black excellence around me. Saying that I wanted to be a doctor planted a seed. I was 9 when my mom became pregnant with my first sibling, and it was fascinating to me. The physiology of pregnancy, and eventually childbirth, was extremely fascinating to me; it set me off on my journey to be an ObGyn.

As I got older, things didn’t get any easier. I went to high school in one of the toughest areas on the South side of Chicago. Gang violence, and violence in and of itself, were all around me, but I was able to stay focused. I went on to Xavier University in Louisiana.

Dr. Levy: There are some important things that I learned from your book and from talking to you at our first meeting. Your mom’s ObGyn, when she was pregnant with your next youngest sibling, was also a Black ObGyn. He took some time to take you under wing?

Dr. Johnson: He did. My mom’s ObGyn was a Black man. Other than The Cosby Show, that’s the only time I saw something like that. When I spoke to him, he really took the time to answer my questions and show me that he was like me; he wasn’t just a far-off mythical person, or something that I could not obtain.

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Seeing is believing when it comes to success

Dr. Levy: Do you think it was important to have a role model who wasn’t a sports star?

Dr. Johnson: If you can’t see it, you can’t achieve it. He took his time to really talk to me, and it’s the little things for kids that go a long way in their life experience. I still have a relationship with him to this day. How he handled me as a kid made me realize that this is something that I could do. That was extremely important for me.

Dr. Levy: One of the structural things I think we need to point out is that the ability to see yourself as someone successful is critical. When we see 1,000 images a day and they are all White, and they are all so different from where we are that it gets incorporated into our sense of being. I think that’s really difficult for those of us of with privilege to understand what that privilege is.

Dr. Johnson: Absolutely, and I’ll even go further. In residency, 2 White females were my classmates, and both of their parents were doctors. They had grandparents who were doctors. My mom was addicted to drugs; my father was not around. They had been talking medicine since they were 5. You have to make things equitable, but in medicine it’s really not equitable. In medicine, what we don’t realize is that there is an importance for all aspects of someone’s upbringing and environment, and it’s not just what they can regurgitate on a standardized test. If a patient can’t relate to you and tell you what is wrong with them, how can you adequately treat them?

Dr. Levy: Even if they are trying to tell me, but I can’t hear it because I don’t have the language and I don’t have the background. There are really good data to show, in fact, that Black male physicians do a better job at engaging Black men to manage their hypertension.¹ When we look at the inequities in birth outcomes for women of color, indigenous women and Black women, there’s evidence that providers who come from a similar background do a better job.

Dr. Johnson: There was the study of Black infants that just came out about them dying at a 3-time higher rate in non-Black physicians’ hands.² These things need to be recognized. They need to be discussed, and they need to be identified as issues and then, realistically, we need to start talking about solutions, not get offended by what actual statistics are saying.

Foundational inequities in education

Dr. Levy: To address some of the barriers that you faced: I know that you went to a high school that was not geared toward pushing students into professional careers. Your colleagues, however, had educations that prepared them for the standardized tests and other things that they would face academically.

Dr. Johnson: People think I am kidding when I say it, but when I went into college, I didn’t know what a periodic table was. I saw it, but I had no idea what these things meant. I didn’t have any sciences or any AP classes in high school. I did well, but grades are smoke and mirrors. The true test of medicine comes with testing. From the MCATs to the boards, every step of the way there is a standardized test.

Knowledge is something that you can obtain, but test taking is a cultivated skill that happens from a very early age. Trying to teach an adult or someone in their late teens a skill that they should have learned as a kid is difficult. For me, I did not have that, so I had to program myself. I had to learn how to fundamentally take tests as an adult, where most people understand how to do that going into college and professional school.

Dr. Levy: I was impressed with your resilience. I think all of us as human beings, if we fail a test, we take it personally and think it’s about our lack of knowledge. One of the insights that you came to was that failure on those things was not that you didn’t study hard enough. In fact, you probably studied 4 times harder than most other people. You had the knowledge. Being able to get that knowledge into a standardized structured test score was the huge challenge for you.

Dr. Johnson: That’s it. I can remember taking the MCAT, and if you looked at the step 1 book, I could regurgitate to you everything on that page. However, it’s not a test about do you know it or not. It’s an understanding of the English language and how to break things down to make things fit into particular scenarios.

Continue to: A college experience focused on growth and exposure...

Dr. Levy: I was impressed by the distinction between your experience at Xavier University where there was a lot of support and guidance and help in your premed program, and what happened to you when you hit medical school.

Dr. Johnson: Xavier University in Louisiana is the number 1 institution in the country for getting minorities into professional school. They understand that they have kids that are brilliant but underprepared, and just have not had the background to actually tackle some of these tough curriculums. I always had good grades in school. But by not being challenged, I didn’t know what I didn’t really know. So now that I was seeing biology, chemistry for the first time, and trying to tackle it; there’s a failure point. I didn’t know how to take tests, and I didn’t know how to study properly. The harder I tried, the worse things got for me.

Xavier has seen that story a multitude of times. If I went to a bigger or predominantly White university, a counselor would have told me, “Well, medicine’s maybe not for you. You can’t handle a premed curriculum.” Instead, I said, “Listen, I’m studying. I’m doing all of these things, and I’m not hacking it.” And they broke it down: “Let’s get you into study groups with kids that have had these type of AP classes before. We’ll have you watch how they study,” and everything started to click. That facilitation of how to adjust to this curriculum was a godsend. It’s the only reason I’m here. I am a prime example of being brilliant enough to be able to do it, but needing the infrastructure and a system set up.

Dr. Levy: There’s a great book by Carol Dweck called Mindset that talks about education of young kids and putting them into silos so early in life; the brilliant kids go into the AP courses and the rest are labeled as inadequate. It’s assumed in a fixed mindset based on their heredity and IQ, and not based on the fact that they have not been exposed to the right things.

Xavier was growing you into the man who could, in fact, do all of those things. I think that is one of the systemic and structural issues that we have—that fixed mindset that frames a kid who is not succeeding as therefore unable to succeed, as opposed to framing that child as not having the correct tools.

New tribulations of medical school

Dr. Johnson: Absolutely. I think what Xavier did for me is to at least let me understand what I needed to do, how to comprehend and retain information, which I never had been exposed to before. Those years were very important to establishing a foundation. When going to medical school, it was like, “There’s no more excuses. What could be the problem now?” Well, now let’s talk about taking tests—a whole different skill. Xavier focused on getting me to understand how to structure my thought process and knowledge base. In medical school I had to apply those skills (because if you can’t apply them, there’s no fit).

My second through fourth year of medical school, I was the only African-American kid in my class. I was spending 20-hour days sometimes just studying, trying to overcompensate by knowing as much as I possibly could and thinking that would propel me from the test-taking standpoint. Even though I didn’t have a lot of classmates in medical school that looked like me, I did have mentors that looked similarly, who really saw potential in me. Dr. Frederick Horvath, a nephrologist in Peoria said, “What are you doing? I want you to get out of these books, and let’s go out to lunch.”

He ended up buying me some instrumental books, really talked to me, listening to my background and understanding how driven I was as a person. He took me under his wing for the rest of medical school and said, “This is how you navigate through these spaces. Yes, you need to have a fund of knowledge to be able to take these tests, but you need to start understanding how to apply it to these questions.” I’m forever grateful to Dr. Horvath for doing that because it was a point in time where I was lost and struggling.

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Dr. Levy: You talk about the systemic and pervasive racism that was on the wards when you hit them in fourth year. If you don’t mind sharing just a little bit of that, it would help people reading this to have a better understanding of the kinds of barriers that are out there.

Dr. Johnson: Even when I talk about it today, it bothers me.

I went to medical school in Peoria, Illinois, not far from the home of the Ku Klux Klan. At that time, once you got out of Chicago it was a very brutal place, with systemic racism throughout. I was a young Black kid going through a process that not many young Black kids from the South side of Chicago go through, and you had people who had never seen anyone like me. When I was going through my clinical rotations, I knew what I was up against. I was dressed “to the T” every day, arriving early, leaving late, trying to answer questions. I would look at the evaluations, and they would be disparaging. I would look at my counterparts, how their evaluations were, and how people would respond to them, and it would be completely different.

Surgery was the part of ObGyn that I really grew to love more than anything, even more than obstetrics. When general surgery came, I wanted to take it very seriously and learn as much as I possibly could. From the beginning, I knew there was a problem because the chief resident, an older White man, wouldn’t look me in the eye or talk to me. He would make disparaging remarks. The thing that stuck out in my mind the most was when I was in the operating room transporting patients, just like a medical student did, and he came up behind me and said, “You know, Pierre, this is where a small mind and a strong back come into play.” For me, it took me to a place where I had to corral my emotions and thoughts because I just wanted to lash out and just tell him how racist and horrible that was for him to say that to me. I explained this to the powers that be, the director of the department, and they basically blew it off to the side.

When it came down to the end of the evaluation period, I passed with flying colors. But they gave me an incomplete because of that chief resident and his remarks on my evaluations. He had 3 pages of report about me as a person and as a student. He said that he had difficulty in expressing his opinions about me because of possible cultural biases that he may have had. He put “cultural biases” in an evaluation, and they looked at that and said that was enough for me to have to remediate my time. I was required to do an extra month in Pontiac, Illinois, which is even more rural than Peoria, because of a racist person that did not give me a fair opportunity because I was Black.

Like everything else in life, it was a learning experience. It’s why I fight so hard today. It’s why I’m so passionate about equity, not only in medicine but also in all aspects of society. It shows why we have police brutality and Black men dying in the streets. It shows how this happens because there are cultural and implicit biases that play out in every part of life, and we are not honest about it. Until we are honest about it and until we say that this is happening and there is something that needs to be done to address it, it’s going to continue to happen. That is my fight.

Exposing the unspoken power struggle

Dr. Levy: I couldn’t agree more. Attributing things like that to the individual, where you talk about a White man in power and a power structure that didn’t literally physically beat you but did beat you into submission. You talk about how to succeed in medical school, and how you had to suck it up and submit to something that was incredibly unfair. You understood, you were old enough, mature enough, to understand that if you fought back, you were going to lose. The only opportunity you had was to submit to that inequity and push forward.

Dr. Johnson: When I did try to fight, the chair of the department told me that either I accept the consequences or I would not graduate from medical school and be forced to do another year. That struck a chord with me. I think that happens a lot in our society, and it needs to be exposed.

Past experiences reflected in today’s society

Dr. Levy: Can you talk about what you faced in your ObGyn residency in terms of the systemic pushback, people not taking your orders, people questioning you. I know that I have heard that a great deal, and I experienced that myself as a woman.

Dr. Johnson: We look at the things that are happening now, everything from George Floyd’s murder to Colin Kaepernick taking a knee. These things are 10 years past when I first started residency. The year before I started residency, there was a noose hanging on the capitol lawn of Springfield, Illinois’ capital city. There’s systemic racism and hatred there. When I first started on the wards of my first year of ObGyn, again, I was the very first Black resident of my program’s history. Nobody could relate to me.

I went from a year-long general surgery internship at Washington Hospital Center in Washington, DC, to ObGyn residency. In the first 2 months, there were complaints of, “He’s not answering his pages. He’s not being prompt.” I went to my program director and said, “Listen, I have never had one complaint like this. There’s a problem here. And there’s a problem when I’m on the floor: When trying to give orders to nurses, they’re not taking them. I had to tell a couple of nurses, ‘I’m Dr. Johnson. Don’t call me by my first name, especially not in front of patients.’”

My director was just not hearing me, because the entire scenario was something they had never been exposed to. Systemic racism is real, and unless you experience it, it’s very difficult to accept that it is happening. But biases happen when you are not cognizant. People are used to things a certain way. Things play out in the media that make your mind think a certain way, and you don’t even realize it. You may not even want to be that way.

Continue to: Unconscious bias is a barrier to ensuring equity...

Dr. Levy: One very important point you just made is that we as the system need to be able to recognize those unconscious things, the language that we use, the disparaging remarks, the things that put people down, as well as the things that keep people out of promotion.

There are some interesting data about both race and gender and the language that we use when we write recommendations for people, that we do things unconsciously. The big message to all of us at the end is to open our minds to where those things can occur. For myself, professionally, I keep a list of words that I use when I write recommendations. I measure myself to ensure that I am using the same language for men and women, for Black and White. I think we need to overcome the system and the structure to create real equity—not equality but equity.

It begins with being real about the issues

Dr. Johnson: It’s a bigger problem than the existence of bias and racism. I think these are systemic issues that have been cultivated over centuries that have never been addressed. The true issue is that we deny that these are problems and refuse to talk about it because it makes us uncomfortable. To truly make things more equitable, we have to push our levels of comfort to be able to talk about things in a healthy manner, be open and transparent, and to start to understand how we are thinking about certain things. When you can see it, you can start to implement changes and start to change mentalities and thought processes.

For me, people say, “You don’t look like a doctor.” I get that all the time—because I have tattoos and earrings. I wear my hair in a mohawk. The image of what success looks like has been manifested through our media and culture, and it has imprinted on our minds as to how things are supposed to be. If someone doesn’t fit those molds, we start to shun them out, or we start to exhibit biases against those things. What I am trying to do is change that thought process of what a successful or a professional person looks like. It doesn’t have a look. It is not a White or Black thing. It’s an intellect, a mindset, a way of living. You have to treat every person as an individual and take all the biases out of it and understand where they are coming from and what they have to offer to the profession.

Dr. Levy: I personally was so impressed by you when I met you. I was impressed by the tattoos and the earrings, and my initial response to them was exactly that biased, “Oh, who is this person?” I checked that at the door, listened to you, and was really impressed at your surgical skill, your knowledge, your background. I am really grateful that you have been willing to spend the time to share that with everyone.

Dr. Johnson: Thank you for this discussion.

To watch the full interview between Drs. Levy and Johnson, visit: https://www.mdedge.com/obgyn/article/228507/facing-systemic-racism-health-care-inequities-medical-education. ●